a club called the Kennel and Canine Registration club?

Another thing I have been looking at, is this web site (MOd - Link removed)Anyone else seen it?

Not me ?
Karen

this is a Puppy Farm on a Major scale !!!!!!! Enough said!!!!!  it states the pups are NOT KC Reg but DLR, registered.  Stinks if you ask me !!!!!!!!!

Ditto Margeurite. The site is disgusting- refers to puppies as 'product'. Even worse it appears to have support from Pet-Plan.

What a lovely rural setting NOT

OMG! I've seen American websites like this but never a British one.Who on earth would buy a puppy with a click of their mouse without even seeing it or knowing anything about it or its background-surely nobody would?! Absolutely horrible-how many of these pups will just end up in rescue?

i am shocked things like this are legal how can you post a puppy what an disturbing way to buy a puppy
even if its trassported proper how can you buy a dog like this ,
can we please delete the web address please lets not advertise this farm any more,
i looked at the map to and am truley upset at what i see , how loved can these pups be to be kept their and so many its wrong and should be illegal

Ugh.

I dont think the puppies ARE kept at that location though - I think (given the very basicness of the site), they have details of people breeding on their behalf, in their own homes, and then the pups are sold via this website and delivered to you via their own van.

The reason pups are listed as 'product' is because they havent the web-savvy to change the standard template of the online shop software so it says anything different.

Still horrific and yes, this is I think (things like this, and other backyard breeders and puppy farms) where most of the countries rescue dogs started out from.

Link has gone, but no, not heard of it, and sounds like I don't want to!!

These people advertise on that other puppy selling website, they are advertising that they are kennel club accredited breeders :(

It looks like they are operating out of a wreckers yard, can you imagine the rats and the disease living there :(

According to another site the same person used to operate as Moorlands border collies. If they are advertising as Accredited Breeders someone should surely tell the kennel club?

There's no mention of KC Accredited Breeders on their website - it clearly states puppies are not KC registered.

its all wrong i wouldnt be surprised if thats where the pet shop, in question, get their pups from it awful they have x breeds to but when i asked about one dog on going in just to see if the shop had some meat and trip for my lot (it says its a pet shop) i found they sold No pet food at all, just puppys and one looked so sad so i asked what breed he was and the guy said collie x lab , i said "oh hes not a pedigree then he a mongrel (thats what i know these dogs as)"answer was "yes love hes a pedigree collie x lab" !!!!!,
they sell all their puppy at around the £400.00 mark with no kc reg but you get papers they said , what a load of twodle,

but they did have a lovley old english sheep dog on sale for £600,
no kc reg,  surley a buyer would want a proper pedigree with real kc papers and health checked for that money ,
i no i would, places like this should not be allowed to operate, i mean what happens with the pups they dont sell surley thay dont sell 8 puppys a week not around this area and not at those prices, so the poor things at 8 weeks old are taken from mother put in these kennels and just feed and watered till some one comes in to buy one, i cant see their bussiness booming can you, but they are still open and have been for good few years now,

oh and thank you  for removing link ,

> There's no mention of KC Accredited Breeders on their website - it clearly states puppies are not KC registered.

they also advertise on e***z where they have the icon for being an accredited breeder

oh poop i did didnt i :-o oh dam im so sorry i cant belive i done that please report it get it off im so stupid , sorry i had just woke up is my only excuse and that im im idiot sorry i really aint got my head on the right way this morning,

I've e-mailed e***z regarding that, although I doubt I'll get a reply. It also states they have a council licence, so may be, in that delightful location, they do have puppies held there. Very, very sad!

I've also e-mailed the KC, will see if they respond!

'no kc reg,  surley a buyer would want a proper pedigree with real kc papers and health checked for that money'

I have recently found a pet shop that sells many breeds of puppies and after long chats with the staff there it would appear that it is exactly the opposite case unfortunately.
They sell a huge amount of puppies every week, none are kc registered the reason they give being that they are pets not show dogs. They state that they are fully health checked and yes they are but when questioned it was just a vet visit 2-3 times a week where they insist they are heart, eye and hip tested with no problems !!! Its just that the majority of pet owners don't seem to have a clue about any of these things. I find it quite unbelieveable myself but they sell these unregistered, supposedly purebred puppies for huge amounts of money (more then a reputable breeder would ask), they have several different breeds there most of the time and they are never there for long :-(

 

Unfortunately places like that are always going to do business,catering for those people who may not meet the criteria of a decent breeder.Its a fast,easy,no questions asked way of buying a puppy(although with this website fast and easy just reached crazy new levels) and the commercial outlets use that to their advantage.

I have just written to our local council asking them to ban the sale of puppies and kittens in pet shops in our borough. Swindon council have just done it :)

K

are shops even allowed to sell dogs and cats and if so their must be some laws and checks from animal welfare of some sort and how can the breeding of dogs like this site be legal are checks done on these places anyone know?

> 'no kc reg,  surley a buyer would want a proper pedigree with real kc papers and health checked for that money'
>

My ex husband buys unregistered springer spaniels from a gamekeeper he knows. They are not health tested in any way but he claims they are better than a pup bred from properly bred and health tested parents, because anything registered with the KC is bound to be rubbish and sickly.... (What ever did I see in him???? Doubts self and sanity of earlier years.... )

but to get back to the point, people do not always realise that the paper they are getting is not the correct paperwork. For example if they are given a pedigree they think that is official paperwork, they do not realise that the only official paperwork is the KC registration certificate.

Others will buy from "home breeders" because they think the health testing will not be needed, because any dog that lives in a family home is bound to be ok health and temperament wise.

Another group of puppy buyers will simply buy what appears to be a bargain or swing the other way and buy a pedigree that is not bred for the show ring simply because they want a pet and do not have any intention to show their dog.

> are shops even allowed to sell dogs and cats and if so their must be some laws and checks

yes in many areas they are. As to checks these are not always carried out regularly. Ask the Puppy Love campaigners they have lists of these places and they know which are checked regularly and by whom.

thanks polly do you have a link or address for them id love to check if a pet shop i know of is on their list,

its ok just to say i found it theirs a documentry on the site about puppy farms would hope this would put people off buying dogs from places like this , maybe it needs to be more widely shown to the public and hopefully put these places out of bussiness

Just thought I'd report back on the e-mails I sent to e***z and the KC.

I've heard nothing from the KC but did get a reply from e***z saying "they would look into it". Having just checked on their site the ads for various breeds available from "that" supplier are no longer there, so maybe they DO listen.

Missed the original link but if this is the same person as Moorlands BC's I had dealings with them about 18mths ago. The result was a very sick puppy, massive vet bill and upset 2yr old son. Sadly none of the authorities would do anything.

You may find it on this list http://puppyalert.googlepages.com/petshops

It is an online 'pet shop', licensed by their Council as a pet shop to enable them to buy in puppies from elsewhere (in  this case Ireland) to resell.

http://coldwetnose.blogspot.com/2009/06/click-and-treat-dogs-as-pizza.html