Hollie Steele

Tear jerker or what. !!
Would you have wanted to pull her off and say no more?

You could hear very early on in her routine that emotion had got the better of her although she tried, typical child though and wants to have another go. Would you let her go further?

Umm I just wonder how she's going to do tomorrow if she couldn't cope tonight.  Maybe they should up the age limit, to maybe 12.  Aiden I voted for and the line was continiously engaged.

symapathy vote i think

juilan smith the sax player i think will win

to much press for susan boyel
the boy dancer was good but the same as last year winner
the dance group 2 a penny
money on juilan to win

I think some children are born to perform and age is no barrier, so I wouldn't limit the age entrance. Perform is what it's all about and although Hollie may have talent she can't 'perform'.

She seems not to have the same self confidence that Aiden has, he knows he's good and it shows, having said that there are many stars that got totally sick at the idea of performing, George Micheal is a good example and Sade too, Hollie is very young and has time to learn but as a mum I'd be incline to ease up a bit and let her do it for fun.

so emotional, tears running down my face and i was pleading for them to stop her. mum should of given her a big hug and took her home. Not encouraged her to try again.

There was no tears and it was a strop because she wasnt getting her own way. I dont think she gets told no very often. I wish she hadnt got through to the finals. how is she going to cope with that pressure and what happens if she fluffs it again.

I think that if I was Hollie's Mum, I would have not let her go back on the second time.  I couldn't put a child of mine through that.

I certainly worry about how she'll cope tomorrow.

I had tears too and was shouting at the screen take her off take her off, it's not right she's too young and not ready for this.

Imagine though if mum had done that and not allowed little one another chance,  little one would never have forgiven her.

I think that she will not get through and the knock back will only serve to decide if she really has what it takes to continue with her singing an any future career she may have

She's a great singer BUT too young for live TV and audience!

It got to her and I worry how she will cope in the final and if she wins, well......

Personally I think she shouldn't be allowed to be in the final and come back in a few years when she has the courage.

Mum seemed a little pushy to be honest...

Julian is too diverse although brilliant and gets my vote

Aiden is better than George from last year.

Susan has a great voice but maybe all the press will be too much for her

Diversity are brilliant

It's going to be a tight one

> Imagine though if mum had done that and not allowed little one another chance,  little one would never have forgiven her.
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But if she had thought that there was no second chance, as there shouldn't have been, she wouldn't have been put through it all again!

> Mum seemed a little pushy to be honest...

Didn't want to be too pointed and was hoping that someone would pick up on my vibes but couldn't agree more, all mums have the most talented kids but I'm not too sure I'd have pushed mine as far as this.

I know that to perform they have to be able to take the knocks but this litle one seemed totally unprepared and incapable of handling the knocks

I hated it....all that hollering & not a single tear shed, i thought she would throw herself on the floor when Ant told her they had no time for her to sing again!  Typical spoilt brat being pushed along by her mum, she needs to take a break & mature a little, too young for all this. Loved the kid dancing, he had such a cheeky grin......lol  

Oh I agree, she shouldn't have been put through it again, but she's a child and they want another chance, even if there's no chance of a second chance kids still want a second chance :)

I thought she would throw herself on the floor when Ant told her they had no time for her to sing again!

Being a synical old tart I did wonder how much was 'staged' cos we've had Susan doing the wobbly stuff  in the press so maybe bringing in a bit of youthful spice might bring dome extra interest to proceedings

I agree Aiden was the best tonight

I saw many kids within handling pushed by parents when I was a junior and we no longer see them at shows...The ones that weren't pushed are still in it on their own accord now.  Like myself and my brother.  Not pushed at all and both of us still showing (although I wish he didn't go into the adult handling classes! :-D)

I don't think that she should have been given a second chance, the judges are always saying you have two mins for your act, if another act goes abit wobbley tomorrow because of the pressure will they be given a second chance ( i think not ).

Peanuts

I don't think that she should have been given a second chance, the judges are always saying you have two mins for your act,

She's just ten years old -if nothing else Simon showed he has a soft heart -who wouldn't have crumbled in that situation.

>She's just ten years old

So should she be put under that sort of pressure?

Hollie lives very near to me her mother has however been in every local newspaper and radio station pleading for readers/listeners to vote for her daughter,Pushy mother syndrome comes to mind and it is my opinion that tonight proved what some parents will do to get their kids recognised.
Hollie doesnt get to play out like normal 10yr olds,it was stated early on that she is/has been bullied at school and has very few friends.
Im thinking tonights fiasco was staged to gain sympathy ensuring she would get through to the final,i mean no one else has had their mother on stage when results are announced and the little girl from a few nights ago was in tears but her mother was not with her.
Surely hollie cant win tomorrow night

> Would you let her go further?

I do worry for her in tomorrows show, but mayby it was the pressure of making it to the final that was too much for her.
I was very pleased that Simon gave her a second chance. I hope the fact that she was given a second chance and sang her song right to the end (how about that finishing note - wow, no wonder she was nervouse having to hit that!!!) has given her more confidence for the final.

It wasn't nice to see her upset and struggling, but I thought the way the audience tried to clap her on showed wonderfull support, really heart warming and well done Simon - there is a soft heart underneath that hard exterior he puts on :)

I don't think it would be right for her to win, far too much pressure for her having to go through all that in front of the Queen, but I am pleased she got a second chance.

I felt sorry for the guy who was up against Hollie.... I some how think he will be signed very quickly and we will be seeing him on stage very soon.

Julain Smith ....goosebumps.. !!

There was no tears and it was a strop because she wasnt getting her own way.

agree entirely! i thought it was a tantrum too and agree mum was much too pushy, she reminded me of an american prog i once saw when they push kids as young as 3/4 to be beauty queens and compete every weekend

i agre there was no tears rolling doewn her face,i said this o andrew at the time when watching it,

if she can copy in in that enivorment was is she going to do on the big day.

no vote here ok for juilan smith he the dark horse,

no press or bad chat on him yet.

think i may go and put a bet on him dont know how never bet in my life,

Holly reminds me very much of the stage school children we used to meet at the dance festivals when my own daughter was dancing. To put it politely they were taught how to get the best from every situation while on stage.

she did alright

> To put it politely they were taught how to get the best from every situation while on stage.

And sadly they carry on using it... I went to a wedding where one of the contestants(?) of Big Brother was an evening guest. She threw an  almighty strop and walked out because we did not all fawn over her. I don't watch BB, I remember her as the "madam" from Primary school.She was a performer like Hollie...she was very clever ,but more amazing at crocodile tears. I remember her trying them on our English Tutor. Rather unimpressed he told her. "one day you may well win an award, but it won't be today"..

Hollie does have a very sweet voice though and I love the song she sang last night... it brings a tear to my eye just like it did in The Sound of Music.....

I thought it was so unfair, letting her have another go - lots of the contestants have had a wobbly night due to nerves and they didn't get to go again.   She got through on a sympathy vote.  You're right, there were no tears - just a big paddy.

I wanted the DreamBears to go through,

She got through on a sympathy vote.

Whether she did or not, the standard lats night was such utter rubbish apart from Aidan there wasn't anybody else than Hollie worthy of going through.

For me I think it was a real bad case of stage fright,Its happened to me once around the same age ish (not such a grand scale as Hollie though) and I actually ran off in tears so I did feel a little sorry for her.
If what was said a few posts earlier about Hollie being bullied ,not allowed out to play etc by her pushy mum then I think its the mum who should take the blame. I couldnt believe her mum just allowed it to go on for so long when it was quite clear she was struggling, I just thought thank god for Ant n Dec(and Amanda,even though she couldnt get on stage fast enough) who ran on to comfort her as If Id have been able I would have jumped through the tele to do the same.
My heart broke for that little girl,she is talented but was obviously overwhelmed in front of the big audience.Giving her a second chance was nice but I dont think it will help her if she wins and has to perform at The Royal Variety show,imagine what she will feel like for the rest of her life if her nerves get the better of her then.

p.s edited to add...I like julian ,Flawless and my favs are Stavros flatley as they were so funny ive not laughed as much in ages. Id be happy if any of them won

Crocodile tears don't think it was fair at all she only got thu on sympathy  Natalie Okri
Was Much better and deserved a place in the final,  I found the whole thing false ,
  Flawless gets my vote tonight  love them ,

Don't think it was at all fair to Greg - it was obvious the judges were going to put Holly through as there is no way they wanted another load of hysterics. :(  Think the people who voted for Holly have done her no favours at all.

Think the people who voted for Holly have done her no favours at all.

I totally agree, she's not the only child that has competed in the show and i am sure they have all had terrible nerves and stage fright not to mention that the adults have aswell.
Tonight i think that she will be more nervous and she will have more tears

Peanuts

Holly, spoilt brat and strange choice of song?

For the fans of Julian Smith a storm seems to be brewing that he is not quite the Teacher looking for a break he makes out try googling Joolz Gianni

Well I'm for the other Smith, Shaun.  Really nice voice.  Feel sorry for Susan Boyle.  Other contestants have said that the press have hounded her all the way whilst at the hotel and not bothered anyone else.  I think she still get to do something though.

I like both the male dance groups also.

Ahhh, so Julian Smith is another Paul Potts then, suposedly just doing it for the love and never doing anything professional and then you read afterwards that they've done a lot more than they admitted to, or should we say more than the show was wanting them to admit to.

If she couldn't hack it yesterday, doubt she would ever be able to rise to the occasion of the Royal Variety Show. I thought the judges were out of order as well. Holly was rubbish (in my opinion !!) and to hear 3 judges saying how brave she was and how she has a beautiful voice was utter nonsence.

> and to hear 3 judges saying how brave she was and how she has a beautiful voice was utter nonsence.

I think getting back on stage after you've made a mess of your performance (in a competition) and broken down in tears, infront of an audience and knowing it's being broadcast live on TV, takes quite a lot of guts and this was just a little girl, I imagine that as the judges are in show business they know what it must feel like to go through that so admired her courage.

I thought that it was wonderful she was given a second chance, I don't believe she should have been pulled off as she so wanted to do it again and she was fine the second time.

However, her comment at the end once she was put through of "I don't want it to stop!" as a parent would have red flags waving madly infront of my face, she's 10 years old I hope that her parents do not allow this to envelop her whole life and become her only focus. The other children love to perform, but you can see they would take the disappointment if not put through.

If I were Hollies parent, I think I would be thinking long and hard about how show business may mentally break her, it has to be done particualrly with a child for the love and fun of it, but also not to be taken so seriously and be the be all and end all to life otherwise she may well feel she has nothing left if she fails, not a feeling any child should ever have. :-(

>For the fans of Julian Smith a storm seems to be brewing that he is not quite the Teacher looking for a break he makes out try googling Joolz Gianni

What????  They look compleatly different   or is it just me who thinks that?

I think if anyone adult on the shows had spoiled their first performance, there is no way they would have been given a second chance.  Also a precedent has now been set for future series which is patently unfair.  Either have a minimum age limit or treat everyone exactly the same.

> Don't think it was at all fair to Greg

I thought Hollie & Aidan were the only 2 last night who were anything near ok.  Greg (Is that the guy with the high voice?) was flat in places, his singing is bizarre, he is a one trick pony.    How on earth that guy playing the guitar got through beggars belief and the juggler.      My 3 week old kittens have more stage presence

Well they seem to put a few good acts on one programme along with utter rubbish so they stand out more.
If Hollie had been on the programme with flawless, diversity , susan boyle etc no one would have noticed her.

Peanuts

they look the same to me jilan smith and joolz gianni

justdid the seach

> they look the same to me juilan smith and joolz gianni

This site would seem to suggest they are the same person.

> I thought that it was wonderful she was given a second chance

Now ordinarily... I'd agree with you there
However..
(and its a big however!)

Did no-one notice the foot stamp!!!?? watching it on the telly the camera was only focused on her from chest up but non the less you can still clearly see the movement of her body when she does it!!

Now, had that been a little girl genuinely mortified and overcome with the emotion and magnitude I would give all credit where it was due, but I'm afraid to say I think we saw a flash of true colours and it didn't sit comfortably with me, puts a whole different spin on things I think. :(

Oh. I was gonna vote for him....not sure now!

I really hope Holly doesn't win....why should she get a second chance....noone else did!
The tears really annoyed me.

hey Husky girl
Does Vuruca Salt spring to mind !! ( girl on Charlie & Choccy Factory )

Peanuts

Judging by what simon has just said about what happened last night I certainly think the subject of hollie has casued quite a stir overnight

Me I thyyink it will be a good final and stilll want Stavros flatley to win as they are so funny imo.
Dont mind though if flawless or that aiden kid win or even diversity Id be happy with any of them

Just making a general comment...

I haven't watched this at all up until last night when I only really caught Hollie's 'act' (in all senses of the word) and Aidan's routine.  I too saw a child throwing a tantrum when she realised that it wasn't going her way.  Fair enough, she is only 10 years old after all but it bought her a second chance when no-one else would have got one if they'd stuffed up.  The word 'manipulative' springs to mind for some reason...

Now, that little lad Aidan, on the other hand, he is only 2 years older but he's a whole different kettle of fish...he is so confident in his ability and clearly loves dancing and really looks like he enjoys every second of being out there on that stage.  I'm sure everyone out there is a bundle of nerves but Aidan's natural ability and confidence wins through while Hollie looks like the produce of a pushy parent...which is probably where she learnt to throw a paddy to get her own way.  An actress (and a diva) in the making, maybe...but not a singer.

I am routing for Julian the saxophonist, I think he is brilliant.  I do love Stavros though, I saw them live in the audition and the semi's and they brought the house down.