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Topic Dog Boards / Visitors Questions / Carlin Pinscher wanted
- By guest [us] Date 15.08.02 21:55 UTC
Hello,
I am looking for a Carlin Pinscher puppy.
Any help in finding a breeder would be great.
This would be a pet only and would be spayed/neutered.
Thank you,
Grace
email is pugpin@lycos.com
- By Brainless [gb] Date 15.08.02 22:24 UTC
Is this a particular line of Pinchers. There are only German Pinchers and Affenpinchers in the UK, the Dobermann is not usually known as Dobermann Pincher anymore!
- By fleetgold [gb] Date 16.08.02 07:20 UTC
Miniature Pinchers. I don't think Affens are really considered to be part of the Pincher group?

Joan
Take the rough with the smooth
- By gwen [gb] Date 16.08.02 08:00 UTC
I know Carlin is what pugs are called in France (and Spain too I think), never heard of a Carlin Pinscher - will have a look in my World Show Catalogues, but have a feeling the UK is the wrong place to look!
Gwen
- By eoghania [de] Date 16.08.02 08:34 UTC
Links that might help answer questions. I know I'd never heard of this breed before????
Carlin Pinschers
Breed info Carlinpinscher
Breeder info
I have no idea if these are in the US or UK...but since I don't know where "guest" lives, I guess it's ok :D :D :D
toodles

edit: I have to admit after reading the Mission and FAQs for the first site, I am quite impressed with the overall picture of this "vision". Very detailed and specific. I can understand why this individual decided to set up a specific breed --esp. concerning the Brac. faced dogs. Love them, but I don't want to worry about their usual difficulties.
- By Leigh [gb] Date 16.08.02 08:51 UTC
Isn't the *Pugpin* just another designer dawg like the cockerpoo or munchkin then?
- By eoghania [de] Date 16.08.02 09:02 UTC
According to the FAQs page:

Q. How do you consider the Carlin Pinscher a "Breed" so early in its development? What makes it any different than non-breeds such as the (Fill-in-the-Blank)____-a-poos?

A. The Carlin Pinscher is recognised by its own speicalty club, the
American Carlin Pinscher Society (ACPS). Which maintains a stud
book and registry in addition to providing rescue services. The breed
club governs all breeders of Carlin Pinschers and holds them to a
strict code of ethics.
In addition, the ACPS runs its registry differently than other Kennel
Clubs, and modeled itself after the warmblood horse registries of
Europe. It requires breeding animals to pass inspection for certain
traits which define the Carlin Pinscher, as well as tests for
soundness. If a dog fails inspection it is spayed or neutered and
adopted to a pet home, thus is never bred. The ACPS is more strict
about its breeding practices than most any other breed clubs
registry.
We feel this is the best way to ensure that Carlin Pinschers maintain
an overall quality level within the breed, as only the best individuals,
carefully selected and inspected, are allowed to produce. Serving to
keep all Carlin Pinscher breeders on the same page about exactly
what kind of dog the Carlin Pinscher is now, and where we want to
see it go. It was the only way we could maintain the integrity of our
ideals and goals, and ensure these dogs we are creating will be taken
in the direction we envisioned.
In that alone, we are different than the "oops!" and "Oh well two
different dogs bred together, lets call this a breed" type dogs (like the
Cocka-poo, Snoodle, Peek-A-POO, etc.) The difference is we are
taking it seriously and breeding toward a definate goal.

*******************************

It sounds as if they are seriously developing a breed with a specific purpose like Wiems in the late 1800s or even Louis Doberman and Parson Jack Russell. There is a dearth of 12-18 pound dogs in the small breeds that are short haired, healthy, and not "cutesy" or absolutely tiny. In the States, we just don't have the plethora of local terrier breeds that I've noticed in the UK. Also, terriers do take a certain, shall I say, owner temperament to cope with the quirks????? :D :D
It sounds as if they are very responsible about it. Who's to say that in 20 years it won't be considered a success? :)
:cool:
- By Dawn B [gb] Date 16.08.02 09:25 UTC
Yes Leigh you are right, just another crossbreed, Min Pin x Pug.
Dawn.
- By Jackie H [gb] Date 16.08.02 10:55 UTC
Developed for those who want a mini Rotti perhaps? Well that is what it looked like, sad aint it. Jackie
- By Bec [gb] Date 16.08.02 12:28 UTC
May I remind everyone that you wouldn't have your breeds you have today if someone hadn't crossed them to get the desired traits they wanted in the past.
I've been interested in this particular 'breed' for a couple of years now. I know that I'll never get them over here unless I do it myself. As long as they are responsible in what they are doing then does it really matter whether someone wants a 'cross breed'? If they want to develop it as a breed then they really have to give it a name.
- By eoghania [de] Date 16.08.02 12:45 UTC
They apparently did give it a proper name --- "Carlin Pinscher" :)

Actually, I might have my mom look into the breed. She's looking for a companion for her Schnauzer. He's about 13 and still has a few years, but he misses their other dog who died at age 16. But she doesn't want another dog that needs to be clipped. She doesn't have the "personality for training" for another terrier type or a small hound. That limits her for small dogs.

There's an old German Breed she was really interested -- "Harlekin Pinscher". But I found out that it has gone extinct over here in Germany. Spotted like a Dalmation, but 15-22 pounds and having the sturdy Pinscher body. The "Carlin Pinscher" might fulfill what she is looking for.

Hey, as long as there is a plan to not just indescriminetly breed and to be responsible for pet quality dogs to have a home, what exactly is the horrible aspect of creating a new dog???? We've been doing it for centuries by reason or by accident. Why stop now? Is it because of dogs in shelters being euthanized? Sad fact is that it's the larger breeds having the problems. Shelters find it very easy to place small dogs and in fact have a demand for them in the US.
:cool:
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