Not logged inChampdogs Information Exchange
Forum Breeders Help Search Board Index Active Topics Login

Find your perfect puppy at Champdogs
The UK's leading pedigree dog breeder website for over 25 years

Topic Dog Boards / General / Puppies with lice, fleas and worms
- By mbrowne [ie] Date 04.05.09 09:38 UTC
I bought 2 puppies thursday evening and wormed them as soon as i got them home. I got them to the vet first thing friday morning who said they were full of lice, fleas and worms. He treated them for the fleas and lice and gave them the 7 in 1 injection. I'm just wondering should I still be seeing worms in there poop? Is it safe to let them out with my other dog now or would they infect him?
Thanks in Advance
- By Isabel Date 04.05.09 09:58 UTC
I think it depends on the products the vet has used so I would ask their advise.  Personally I would take them straight back to the breeder and demand not only my purchase price back but the vets fees also.  I am not sure what breeding regulations apply in Ireland, if any, but I would also be reported them to anyone who may be remotely interested.
I would then look for a reputable breeder. You should be aware, however, that it is highly unlikely that they would allow you to have two puppies together but this really is in your own interest as well as the puppies.  Only the sort of breeder you seem to have got mixed up with would allow you to make this mistake.
- By ridgielover Date 04.05.09 10:23 UTC
I can only reiterate Isabel's very sensible advice!
- By tooolz Date 04.05.09 11:20 UTC
I also agree with Isabel...

......if these pups were so debilitated they would have looked very poor....why buy them unless to 'rescue' them?

Unfortunatley many puppy farmers rely on this sentimental attitude to shift their sickly pups and then this leaves space to breed somemore..the cycle goes on ,the dealer gets richer and the poor dogs remain in slavery.

taking them back may seem hard - but this is the only way to stamp this practice out.
- By Astarte Date 04.05.09 11:21 UTC

> who said they were full of lice, fleas and worms


no pup should ever be in this condition when leaving the breeder (or ever but thats not the issue), isabel et al are right, take these pups back.
- By mbrowne [ie] Date 04.05.09 12:00 UTC
The owner had 20 dogs of his own. He is no longer hunting and was selling on all his dogs and this one litter of pups. We didn't pay a high price for them, we knew they hadn't been injected. But we didn't know they were full of lice.  I wouldn't take them back as I wouldn't want them living back in those conditions. I want to get them well. I feel really sorry for them.
I will wait until the vet is open tomorrow and get them checked again.
- By Astarte Date 04.05.09 12:12 UTC
i understand your feelings and its easy to say take them back from the distance of the internet but you are possibly making a huge rod for your back. given the awful condition of these pups it is highly unlikely that the breeder cared enough to do all the health testing thats appropriate for the breed so goodness knows what health issues you'll have in the future. similarly how much thought will have been put in to the temprements of the parents? additionally you have two pups together, the issues associated with this are huge and troubling. its a nightmare trying to train two pups together as they will simply not be interested in you with a fellow pup around. that is until they hit adolecence when there is a good chance that they will either clash if they are same sex or become a nightmare to keep seperate during seasons if mixed.

not a situation i would welcome
- By Isabel Date 04.05.09 21:01 UTC

> He is no longer hunting and was selling on all his dogs and this one litter of pups.


Are you certain this is true? Do you know him personally?  Puppy farmers come out with all sorts of sob stories to shift their unfortunate animals.
- By Freds Mum [gb] Date 05.05.09 09:32 UTC

> I wouldn't take them back as I wouldn't want them living back


Unfortunately thats the ideal kind of buyer back yard breeders want. You feel sorry for the animal so buy a puppy (or two) and play into the 'breeder's ' hands - giving them the moeny to go on and breed these poor animals again.
The puppys may have 'not been a high price' but you can expect to pay lots on veterinary fees on these dogs if they havent been health tested and had such a poor start.

> The owner had 20 dogs of his own. He is no longer hunting and was selling on all his dogs and this one litter of pups


I'm not having a go but did you not think it was suspect that a man with 20 dogs allowed one to have a litter knowing he wanted to get rid of the dogs? Does that mean all the dogs were uneutered then? In which case i cant believe this was the first litter that has been produced.
- By Merlot [gb] Date 05.05.09 12:11 UTC
In reply to your question, I think you need to get something from the vet to worm them again. I would also worm your other dog, don't be in too much of a hurry to let them mix. I suspect by now you have realized what a poor home they have come from and from your post I imagine you will not be taking them back! However you say they are in poor condition and I would be tempted to have a quarentine period to ensure it's not just fleas and lice...make sure they are not carrying any gastric problems before you sibject your dog to the possible infection risk.
As with the good advice you have been given you have taken on a lot. It would be possible to get them clear from bugs etc and maybe think of finding a lovely home for one of them...two pups together is very hard work. That way you would not feel you were putting them back into a risky environment.
I know in the real world it is easy to be wise after the event but do think about rehoming one. They would be better to have some one on one training and would probably bloom into lovely happy dogs that way.
As a warning for anyone reading this, to get a pup from an unreliable source in order to save it from a horrible place is very misguided and like others have said it just perpetuates a market for these vile puppy dealers who have nothing but money on thier adgenda...and they are very capably of spinning a tale to make you feel sorry for the pups!! But remember..If they have NO market, they will stop the breeding...
Aileen
- By toffeecrisp [gb] Date 06.05.09 13:19 UTC
In reply to this post.
Many years ago we made the terrible mistake of buying 2 JR pups that were in a dreadful condition..we only went for one. The breeder told us that they were the last 2 and he was sick of the mess and noise. He also told us that his gf had kept them in the bath as it was easier to hose that and the pups down when it became to mucky and if I didnt take them then he was going to drown them both!!!!! There and then I handed over the money for both! Got them home, bathed them and got them into the vet that day. They had their 1st vacc and he wormed them...dear Lord.......I have never seen pups with so many worms, They were coming out of their mouths and the poo was just a mass of worms( i still cant eat spaghetti now)! I knew that there was no way I could take on both, my friend was looking for a pup and she saw the brother of my girl and wanted him. I explained the problems he was having but she took him anyway, I never took any money for him.I t took us months to get them in great condition, ( years on and we both still have our lovely JRs. I wouldnt do it again though..no matter how much it hurt to leave them.
- By mbrowne [ie] Date 06.05.09 18:55 UTC
Just to add, had my pups back with the vet today and the fleas, lice and worms are gone.
They are very lively and healthy looking, I've had them a week tomorrow.
I am so happy I rescued these little fellas cos god only know what would have happened if they were left there any longer.
- By Isabel Date 06.05.09 19:05 UTC

> I am so happy I rescued these little fellas cos god only know what would have happened if they were left there any longer.


Now there is only the next litter he churns out to worry about.
Topic Dog Boards / General / Puppies with lice, fleas and worms

Powered by mwForum 2.29.6 © 1999-2015 Markus Wichitill

About Us - Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy