Hi all,

Was just surfing through a local ad site and came across an ad for Yorkie puppies, it states that they are
ukc registered, I had a look on the net and what I found is a breeder registration site, which is american!

Is this joint to the kennel club in some way or is it something new?

I am still reading through the site, just curious if anyone else has came across this.

Thanks

Hi Lesley

it's an American registration system, separate to the main body we know as the American Kennel Club however many dogs are registered under both and shown at events run by both.  So a dog could be an AKC & UKC Ch for example.  (UKC is United Kennel Club)

They hold their events completely separately from one another and some of the rules are different too - in my breed outside attraction for example is allowed at UKC events when the dog has been judged and is being critiqued.  Doubtless a lot more to it than that of course but one sample of differences :)

ETA :  Here is a LINK to the UKC.  If you read also the AKC site you'll note the conditions under which certain breeds registered with the UKC can be registered with the AKC (some breeds are not recognised by both registries)

Hi Terri,

Thank you for that, I just could understand the two differences, now I do.

Just had a look through the rest of the site, doesnt explain much.

Least someone new:-)

Are you sure it was a UK ad? I don't look at those sites as they depress me but I do know there can be a mixture of UK and US ads.

Hi, yes the ad was from a London breeder!

Then it well could be one of those scam adverts where the pups don't exist.

There is also a puppy farm registry using the same initials which is not reputable at all.

The UKC is the second oldest breed registry in the US. It's more geared towards working dogs and offers alot of performance events. It's events are very family oriented, everyone helps eachother out, there's quite a sense of comradary and just plain having a good ol' time with the dogs.

The rules for showing are also quite different. Baiting, both with squeakers and food, is strickly forbiden unless the judge decides a breed is better evaluated using bait. Grooming is not allowed in the ring and professional Handlers are strictly forbiden.

As far as conformation goes there aren't alot of events held and the quality of the dogs competing can be lacking in some breeds; it varies greatly depending on your location. The UKC will also allow full registration to a dog that is on limited registration with the AKC. There's alot of breeders who are addimently against the UKC for these reasons.

The UKC is a great way for an owner to gain confidence and better their handling skills. It's also a great way for your up and comming show dog to gain experience in the ring. However if the UKC is your only source of conformation competion and evaluations you won't be taken very seriously by most.

There are breeds which can be registered under the UKC which aren't recognised by the AKC like the Pitbull.

In America those who take showing seriously from what i am told don't even look at the UKC, they don't believe in it and see it as something which is associated with BYB and the like.
That is what i know from those in America who i have spoken to.

That isn't the case in my breed, so I wodner if it si the other registry that uses the same/similar initials.

The aledgedly disreputable registry I believe is the Universal Kennel club..

http://www.universalkennel.com/

Because it shares the initials with the United KC people don't realise the difference.Perhaps they've branched out to the UK?

That is the one I was thinking of, and the legitimate UKC haven't the money or clout of the AKC to stop the deliberate misunderstanding.

<<<There are breeds which can be registered under the UKC which aren't recognised by the AKC like the Pitbull.>>>

The APBT is an unsual and confusing situtation. Dogs registered as Am Staffs with the AKC can be dual registered with the UKC as APBT's, but a dog registered as an APBT with the UKC can't be registered as Am Staffs with the AKC.