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- By St.Domingo Date 11.02.09 21:30 UTC
Following on from a recent thread about the  husky in a TV ad , and after reading ( on another forum )about 2 toy poodles in an RSPCA over Christmas , i was wondering if there is any communication from these large rescues with the breed clubs/rescue . I appreciate that when a large rescue takes on a dog it can't just hand it over to anyone as it wants it to find a forever home but , if i was looking for a pedigree dog or pup i would go via the breed club and not to a shelter . I would only go to a shelter if i wanted a crossbreed .
Some of these pedigrees are quite specialist , and i would hate to think of a dog being PTS just because it was in the wrong place .
I just wondered what others thought ?
- By Freewayz [gb] Date 11.02.09 22:11 UTC
My centre would contact a breed rescue. If only to alert them to the fact we have that breed. We tell them we are not looking for them to take it off our hands BUT if they have any prospective new owners with experience of the breed we would give them preference in offering the dog a new home.
For example....last year we had the remains of a litter of Boxer pups...2 males 2 female aged 14 weeks. Breeder was ill and needed to go into hospital asked us to rehome as she knew the girls who work there. We phoned the local rep for Boxer rescue....let them know the pups were there....they knew of a couple who recently lost an elderly boxer ....had boxers for years. The came over brought their adult children and we rehomed two....one to the original and one to the adult child....

Did similar with CKCS....pointers...and a Red Setter..and a Mastiff pup ...
Letting the breed rescue know is always a good idea. They can help find knowledgeable owners faster than we might....we keep the dog so it is not a drain on their resources AND it usually gets the dog out of kennels so much faster with is good all round...

Cheers
- By krusewalker [gb] Date 11.02.09 22:17 UTC
my centre

ditto to all above

but just to add, you can get *some* (not the stress) breed rescues that are awkward and obstructive,
so as you wouldnt want to work with them. espesh the ones more interested in their own internal politics.
also you can get specialist breed people working in general rescue centres.

there are loads of pedigree/purebreed dogs in general rescue centres, btw.

we would consider passing the dog onto another rescue depending upon the circumstances.
- By LindaMorgan [gb] Date 11.02.09 22:19 UTC
That is a brilliant idea

Linda
- By Granitecitygirl [gb] Date 11.02.09 22:36 UTC
Not sure how much of the 2 poodles in rescue you all know.  The 2 toy poodles in the RSPCA rescue at Christmas were approached by a breed rescue.  The RSPCA were unwilling to let the poodles go to the specialists - they were even refused to let them go in and properly groom the wee mites.  Eventually it was posted on a breed website to try and raise money to get the dogs out of the kennels so that they could be rehomed by the welfare - the price quoted by the RSPCA was £200 I believe but can check that out.  Eventually, and very quickly, the pups were homed to a family who had poodles in the past and who have been in touch with the breed club since rehoming them.  But it does go to show that the breed rescues are willing to work alongside the generic rescues, which would take a lot of the strain off of places like the Dogs Trust, RSPCA, SSPCA and Blue Cross.

I think it would be a great idea if all dog rescue charities and in particular kennels had contact details for the breed rescues and could flag up dogs to them so that they get some much needed help.  I believe that the St Bernards recently rescued by the RSPCA have had some help from the breed rescue.
- By Teri Date 11.02.09 22:49 UTC
The nearest local rescue to me was one time LA owned and they were very cooperative with my breed rescue.  However it was taken over by the SPCA around 10 years ago and certainly for the first few years they appeared to be very hostile towards approaches from any reps of breed rescue. 

Whether their stance has changed in recent times I can't comment on but I had quite a few run ins with them and they stood fast on their being the best authority to decide on the placement of dogs in their kennels - regardless of my own being a very specialist and sensitive breed.

If when visiting I noticed other specialist pedigrees for adoption/sale, I always made their breed reps aware of them and understand they were treated similarly.
- By Schip Date 11.02.09 23:12 UTC
We've found general rescue very reluctant to let Breed rescue have a dog from them, I know of at least one that came via a vet who hid it in the back of the surgery on PTS day!  Thankfully this vet held onto the dog until it could be collected because she knew the breed it saddens me to think we have waitings lists for homes whilst the odd ones turning up in general rescue are being denied a chance of a good experienced home, 1 dog had been rehomed 4 times at a cost of £90 per time only to escape within hrs to days, nice little earner my cynical brain thinks.
- By tooolz Date 12.02.09 07:27 UTC
RSPCA centre nearest to where I used to live had a terrific manager, always called me when she had a boxer in and I would coordinate with breed rescue.Our canine society would often get her along to talk about how we as dog owners/breeders/ rescue coordinators could help.
When she retired the new regime had a sea change and treated breed rescue and dog breeders with hostility.
Even if we had good vetted homes available, adopters would have to 'pretend' that we hadn't alerted them to the boxer (or other pedigree) in need of a home or they just wouldn't get it. We were frozen out  - 'breeder' meant baddie.
I dont know the situation there now, I owned docked dogs and was considered a barbarian :-( so I stayed away.

Incidently this is the centre which raised a huge amount of money for a new building -  plush, shiney and with a lovely commemoration plaque and opening ceremony. It houses the cats, reception, staff facilities, managers office and shop.... the dogs still live in the same old dingey kennels :-(
I'm not a fan as you can see. 
- By Freewayz [gb] Date 12.02.09 15:56 UTC
I am posting to this thread as it is about Rescue centres in partner with breed rescue.

Our Rescue was contacted by a lady with two mini long-haired Daschunds (tan in colour) . One is 4 and one is 2 both female and both neutered. The are suffering blindness. The 4 year old is completely blind the 2 year old is going blind. Vet says it is genetic disease. The woman resuced them and was not told there were going blind. She is undergoing treatment for a brain tumor and cannot look after them. The are in Northern Ireland. I have sent an e-mail to Ulster Daschund club but no resonse as yet. If any one has other contacts of possible homes or foster carers Please PM me. As they are both young they can learn to cope with the blindness and we would like to give them a chance.

Cheers and sorry if this is out of order...just trying to get the word out to as many as possible.
- By Harley Date 12.02.09 21:10 UTC
I have a rescue GR who came from a national rescue - handed in to them at 9 weeks old and they were quite dismissive of any breeders of pedigree dogs. We wanted to let the breeder know that we had taken on this puppy but the rescue wouldn't pass on a message and wouldn't tell us the breeder's name, give us an affix or let us have sight of the KC papers that had been surrendered with the puppy. We were told that the pup had come from a good breeder but the rescue were not interested at all in informing the breeder that the puppy had been rehomed.
- By sam Date 12.02.09 21:25 UTC
well I have been working at a local dogs home today and can tell you there is a 5 month old border terrier, 2 dalmations, 2 gsd, a sharpei, a bullmastiff........plus all the usual staffies and collies and their various mixes. Im sure they dont bother to contact the breed rescues...although they know they are on pain of death to let me know if one of my breeds ever came in!!!
- By Pinky Date 12.02.09 21:38 UTC
I think this is a shame it's almost as though rescues see breeders as the plague and don't want to give out details of the pups papers and affix lest you should want to take advantage and breed yourself.

They should consider that somewhere down the line is a breeder that would be bereft it they thought one of their pups ended up in rescue and would be only to pleased to think that even if their vetting of would be owners has failed at least somebody has taken the little one in. Well done you for taking a rescue.
- By Gabrielle Date 12.02.09 22:01 UTC
Thankfully I don't see many of my breed in rescue centres, but when one has been in I have found the rescue centres in question very unwilling to work with me. Over 6 years of doing the rehoming job, I have rehomed over 40 dogs/bitches and anyone who knows me knows I am really strict on rehoming and don't rehome to just anyone. I have a list built up of suitable homechecked people who are waiting for the opportunity to own a rehome of my breed.
The RSPCA is one of the worst culprits.. They will NOT work with breed rescue or give any details out but they are first to cry poverty and moan that their kennels are full !! Perhaps if they worked a little harder with breed rescue and learnt some communication skills, they wouldn't be as overrun as they maintain they are...
We have a dog from our breed in a rescue centre at the moment... They won't let me help and from speaking to the dogs breeder (who knows it is in there), I know the dog has issues and in the wrong hands will be a nightmare.... When questioned they said a family were coming to see it at weekend... I shudder to think... :-(

Gabrielle
- By Freewayz [gb] Date 12.02.09 22:04 UTC
The girls in our centre have no problem giving out papers if they come in with a pedigree. Most of the time the people don't want them so we keep them in the dogs file. Most often we would photo copy and rub out past owners details. After the dog is neutered there really is no harm in letting them go.
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