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- By bear [gb] Date 02.02.09 14:48 UTC
Hi,
anyone got any ideas how i can stop the people next dog letting there dog bark all hours of the day and late evening.
thy treat it like a baby so i presume it thinks its incharge but doesn't like it and stresses running round and round the garden barking at everything that moves etc.
I've tried talking to them in a nice way and offering advise ie saying i had the same problem with my dogs, which i did when they were younger. 
Also got something put in the village free leaflet asking people to be considerate when there dogs bark(didn't name them though).
They seem to try for a couple of days then give up, so the dog must be very confused.
My problem is i've just got another dog myself and their dog is making mine bark. I take my pup inside straight away if she doesn't stop after being corrected but this is doing my head in and in the summer it will be even worst.
The other neighbours hate the noise but no one else wants to say anything and have left it up to me.
their dog is a border terrier and a really sweet dog but i'm begining to hate him even though it's the peoples fault.

 
- By mastifflover Date 02.02.09 15:52 UTC
It is very frustrating having to listen to other peoples dogs barking and barking, I don't know what to suggest other than informing thier landlord/local council/dog warden.
As for thier dog setting your dog off, look at it as a training challenge, it feels great to know your dog doesn't react to other dogs barking and also makes it easier when out walking (I know I pass plenty of gardens that have barking dogs in them when out walking) :)
- By bear [gb] Date 02.02.09 17:39 UTC
my other two dogs  ignore this barking but my new pup is abit of a challenge but i'm sure i'll sort it out.
i did ask the council but they said it's hard to do anything about because if the dog doesn't bark when they come round you can't prove it and it can take along time and effort then they just send a letter to the people and if they don't do anything there's not alot they can do.
Also didn't really want to fall out with the neighbours but saying that i don't think they like us much since i had a chat about the barking to them.   It seems a no win situation to me and i'm sure i'll end up going round one night and shouting at them.
i really hate the thought of having to say something else as i'm not that type of person but this really winds me up. i've got a disabled daughter and getting her to sleep takes along time then the barking starts so i spend the rest of the evening up stairs. they know this but it doesn't seem to make any difference, the sad thing is they seem really nice people but they just have no control over their dog.
- By mastifflover Date 02.02.09 18:47 UTC

> my other two dogs  ignore this barking but my new pup is abit of a challenge but i'm sure i'll sort it out


As your other dogs don't bark, pup will get there too :)

> i did ask the council but they said it's hard to do anything about because if the dog doesn't bark when they come round you can't prove it and it can take along time and effort then they just send a letter to the people and if they don't do anything there's not alot they can do.


> they seem really nice people but they just have no control over their dog.


It is akward isn't it :( Maybe somebody else that has been through the same will have some suggestions.
- By Papillon [gb] Date 03.02.09 11:45 UTC
Very difficult one and a situation that has to be handled carefully or a no win neighbour grudge/war could be created, if they are nice people and you are able to talk to them would it be possible to mention that thier dog wakes up your disabled daughter with his barking and thats very stressful for you, I am quite in favour of citronella bark collars although I know some people hate them vehemently but they do work and did work with my bark for England Pap, failing that suggest they teach their dog to bark on command, it may help them to gain control a bit, I have a very barky breed and cant stand it when they all go up together as its quite deafening, I do my utmost to stop it asap but some people dont seem to be so noise sensitive as me.
- By bear [gb] Date 03.02.09 13:44 UTC
Hi,
I did mention about the barking waking my daughter up and they seemed sorry but i could tell they were annoyed i mentioned the barking.
When we first moved in she told me an old couple living in the street behind them had sent them a letter complaining and they were not amused , so i knew when i said something they would get funny about it.
as a last resort i did think of getting one of those boxes that you put on the side of your house that omits a high pitch sound that only dogs  can here(sorry don't know what there called), it's supposed to stop dogs  barking but then i'd upset my dogs.
Has anyone tried one of these before? i don't want to be cruel to the dog but think this is my final option. i know they wouldn't use the collar your on about as their too soft with their dog.      
- By Granitecitygirl [eu] Date 03.02.09 13:57 UTC
You don't live next to me do you? :-o

I've tried the collar with my dog but it doesn't work - he starts barking about 4pm because it's time to get out and he's quite punctual ;-)  They don't like next door's husband either so bark at him if they see him.  It is their dog that barks throughout the day and I think that the dog warden has finally sussed that out as she has stopped phoning me.  My dogs would have sore throats I'm sure if they were barking all day like the warden was saying.  But the dog warden is an effective tool in making someone take action - otherwise we would not have been able to prove that it wasn't Rory that was the problem in our cul de sac :-) I would recommend that you get in touch with the DW.

I wish we had cat wardens - all of the neighbourhood cats come into my garden.
- By Dill [gb] Date 03.02.09 16:06 UTC
I had an agressive noisy dog living nextdoor to me :(  it got so bad we couldn't go into our garden, my child and dog were too scared.

I gave up on our next-door neighbour he was an agressive bully who actually liked his Rotti-Bullmastiff X barking and being aggressive over the fence and in front of the house :(   It got to the stage that the dog would bark at us inside our house and I decided enough!

So I kept an eye on when the twit was at work (he only had the dog 'for show' - it lived outside 24/7 :( )  and then armed myself with clicker and sausages cut up small.   At first I had to shout at the dog like he did, just the once, because it was half over the 6ft wire fence at me.  Then once it backed off and shut up in surprise I clicked and treated, after that sweet talking and sausages, along with a clicker were my means of training it.  I managed to train him to sit, lie down, be quiet, come, and not bark at the neighbours on the other side of the dog, who were terrified of him - all from my side of the fence.   After that the dog was a lot calmer and only barked when there was someone about who shouldn't be and he'd listen to me even then.

It can be done!  As long as you have a 'window' where the owners are all out regularly then little and often is best ;)
- By jenny54 [gb] Date 03.02.09 16:21 UTC
I did the same as you when our new neighbours moved in with three german shepherds that they locked outside and left them to bark till 4 in the morning every single night,really gets to you in the end.I poked a small hole in the fence by where they congregated to bark and each time they did i squirted them with water from a water pistol,it only took a few times for  the message to sink in and then all it needed ,if nessesary was me to depress the trigger on the pistol without even squirting any water,just the sound of it was enough.I then used to reward them with a treat and they became much happier dogs.All done without the owners knowledge of course because anyone who thinks so little of their dogs to shut them out and not check when they bark,in my mind,shouldnt own a dog anyway.Its not allways the dogs fault but the owners.
- By Dill [gb] Date 03.02.09 17:03 UTC
Um...

I didn't use any deterrent method at all :(   I shouted ONCE because the dog was so loud and aggressive he wouldn't have heard me speak.  After that he was too busy looking for sausages to bark at me ;)

Personally, I think using a water pistol would be just as likely to cause the dog to bark :(  I know my dogs would start barking at someone who squirted them, and they rarely bark in the garden ;)

A Clicker is a small device used to 'mark' wanted behaviour ;)  it tells the dog he's done right and a treat is coming ;)
- By Papillon [gb] Date 03.02.09 17:17 UTC
To be honest I dont think anything on a wall would stop a dog barking plus it may even upset your own, well if they know the dog is upsetting you and your daughter and still do nothing about it then you may have to resort to the dog warden, you've been nice to them and they have take no action then perhaps they have to know you wont just take it, I myself have a disabled adult son and well understand the pressure your under when that precious sleep time is disturbed (my son is easily disturbed to) you have tried talking to them and got nowhere then its time to take it further, no they might not like it but fairs fair we all need to have some peace at home and they are taking yours away.
- By Dill [gb] Date 03.02.09 17:43 UTC

>fairs fair we all need to have some peace at home and they are taking yours away.


Absolutely!

I have to say I do find it really strange that some people really don't care about their dogs barking and bothering other people :confused:  It may not be easy to stop the dog barking, but often the very fact that you're trying to stop it can make all the difference to neighbours who are being disturbed by it.

Having had the 4am barking and the all day, all night barking I sympathise with anyone who has to live with it.
- By bear [gb] Date 04.02.09 08:58 UTC
Hi,

wish i could try teaching the dog myself but there is a 6ft fence between them and us so i can't see him,also their garden raps all around there house so he rushes around to so fast he'd take little notice even if i could see him.
Last night at 7pm he started barking and didn't stop till gone 8pm then i heard them calling him in but no telling off for the barking. i nearly rushed round and banged on their door but managed to stop myself.
i hate bad feeling between people but i think were going  to fall out soon when i loose my temper and it takes alot to push me that far.
I can't see why they can't take their dog out on a lead for an evening wee if he want behave. i take my new pup out on a lead in the evening so she concentrates on going to the toilet and not playing then we come straight in, hence no time to bark.  
- By Papillon [gb] Date 04.02.09 09:15 UTC
Youve probably hit the nail on the head, their dog is shoved outside instead of being walked and is bored silly so therefore barks, they dont sound like the nicest of people really :-(
- By Dill [gb] Date 04.02.09 11:10 UTC
It's a terrier, barking is what they do - usually at cats, or the idea of cats  :(  but it's very easy to stop them too as they're so bright ;)

With mine they're allowed in the garden unless they start barking, then they're inside asap.  As they like being out and noseying they soon got the message that if they want to stay out then they have to stay quiet :-D  Strangely, they don't really bark to come in (when it's pouring down) they give more of a whisper wuff - but then I hate noisy dogs so they'd get told off if they barked loudly to come in ;)

Can't abide people who leave their dogs to bark non-stop - it's so anti-social :( :(
- By Jwilson [gb] Date 04.02.09 11:40 UTC
i have the same problem with my neighbours dog. its a pom x and yaps at everything. she lets it out and shuts the door, the dog then yaps for hours.

i even printed off the DEFRA leaflet on barking dogs and posted it through their door, it didnt work.

other neighbours have shouted at her but she seems oblivious to it. UNTIL.............

my daughter started working where she does, and she has made it known how the dog is upsetting everyone.

strange , that now she is doing something about it.:)
- By St.Domingo Date 04.02.09 11:50 UTC
Is this not a job for Enviromental Health ?
You need to write a diary of the barking stating times and lengths of the barking then get onto Enviromental Health , your Council and landlord if renting .
Does it have shelter and water - if not get onto the RSPCA . They probably won't do anything but hopefully the neighbour will get fed up of all the complaining .
Also try the Citizens Advice .  As someone else said , you have a right to peace , you shouldn't have to put up with this .
Hopefully someone will come along and quote your legal rights .
- By bear [gb] Date 04.02.09 13:51 UTC
the dog doesn't have a shelter outside as he lives in the house the rest of the time and they don't leave it outside if their out.
I know he's got water and a bed in the kitchen as i've been inside the house, so it's not a question of them not looking after the dog properly. In fact i think they spoil it if anything. they also take him out for two short walks a day.
What makes me really angry is they love gardening and most the time apart from the evening the man is out side himself and either ignores the barking or you hear him call the dogs name in the way you'd talk to a baby and suprisingly the dog just ignores him and carries on.
We own our house so can't contact a land lord and i have spoken to the council but they say although they can monitor the noise and warn the people, most try and solve the problem then give up after a few days. hence this can go on and on.
Just bumped into a lady in our village who does write ups in a local leaflet and she said she'll put something in the next one about being considerate about the noise made by dogs etc.
I did think of sending a few letters to them in different hand writing complaining about the noise so they think other people are fed up with them.
Forgot to say, we've got a local councilor in our village and i spoke to him last year and he had a quite word with them, this did make a difference for a while but it's just that they give up if it doesn't work straight away.  
- By tohme Date 05.02.09 11:13 UTC
EHO is the answer and the owner can be fined.  Also if you report the matter to your EHO the neighbour will not be told who is responsible for making the complaint.

Personallly I always prefer to approach neighbours myself on situations such as this as quite often they have no idea that there IS a problem and no idea of the potential financial penalties.

A dog barking continuously is considered noise pollution and a £5k fine is possible.

I would also make a diary in in the interim
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