So, how do you manage to get your own Affix? I wonder because even starting your own litter you always use someone elses dog to get started so where does the Dam,Sire or pup become yours totally? Have I come across clearly?

You apply to the Kennel Club for an affix (and pay an initial fee and a yearly maintenance fee) which is used as the first part of the name of the dogs you breed.  You can also add your affix to dogs you buy in, and some people who no longer breed or have yet to breed will have their affix attached to dogs they have bought like this.

You do not have to have an affix to register a litter, but anyone serious about their dogs wants their pups to be easily identified as being bred by them.

Yeah, I just wondered how it actually started. New they have to be reg'd with KC and you usually have to pay for everything. So for example, I chose my pups KC name to go on her papers. Mileys KC name is Magical Miss Muffet, So I could just choose a name say Trumpalot Pugs and if the KC agreed and it wasn't like someone elses Affix then Miley would be called Trumpalot Magical Miss Muffet and any pups she might have would have that affix? And any I might buy in the future could have that added to it? Am i close? lol

Your current dog would be Magical Miss Muffet at trumpalot.

Pups you breed would be trumpalot such and such....

Oh I see, so your first (Mum) has the 'at' then Affix last and any puppies have the affix first. Strange lol Think I,ve got it now! Thanks

If you don't add your affix onto your bitch or dog in time and they then win into the stud book you can't do it, as after that the name is unchangeable.

Dogs you own but haven't bred has the kennel name (it's called that now) at the end (if you pay extra for this to be done, it doesn't have to be done) and it can either be without a word first, or you can use at, of, for, via, avec -can't remember them all.

Gottcha, I think.  :)

do you have the link or form at all for this with the kennel club please?

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/kennelnames/. The forms for Kennel Name. HTH :)

Kennel Club homepage :) http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/index.html

THANKYOU

I had heard that Affixes are now called Kennel Names, so what have Kennel Names become (ie. the KC Registered Name as opposed to pet name)?  Sorry just wondered.

The KC registered name has surely always been known as the pedigree name or registered name? Never heard that referred to as kennel name.

When I was granted my kennel name it was approximately my eighth choice ! But I am very happy with it.

And what is your Kennel Name? Are you allowed to say on here? Not sure of the does and don'ts yet! :)

assuming of course you are noyt in australia....if you are you have to take a written exam to apply for your affix. what a great idea me thinks!! :)

Just to advise you that you have to put forward 6 different kennel names on your application, and on top of this all of these may not be accepted if they are too close to anyone else's name.  If this does happen the KC will come back to you and ask for 6 more names.  If I remember correctly, when i applied for mine the whole process took 4+ months.  You really need to plan ahead with this and good luck.

As a comparison.  I applied for my GCCF (Cat) prefix last year.   To apply for a prefix you have to be a member of a cat club for at least a year as the secretary of that cat club has to sign the prefix application form.   You can only use your prefix basically when it  comes to registering kittens but having a prefix makes your kitten registration's half price and you only pay the one off prefix fee (Currently £60), no maintenance fee's etc.

Personally,I would make everyone who breeds, whether it be cats, dogs, budgies etc. have to have a affix, prefix, suffix and that would make them accountable for EVERYTHING they breed.

Personally,I would make everyone who breeds, whether it be cats, dogs, budgies etc. have to have a affix, prefix, suffix and that would make them accountable for EVERYTHING they breed.

I have one for the dogs, another for the cats, and in the past had a registered prefix for rats and hamsters and a separate one for rabbits. :D Think I might have a split personality? ;)

I was lucky with my kennel name, it used to belong to my mother in law before she retired and I asked the KC if I could start using it again. After Mother in law wrote to them and said that she would be delighted for this to happen, they allowed it or I would have been stuck to think up that many names.

> Think I might have a split personality? ;-)

Where's my favourite 'Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm'?  ;-)

The KC registered name has surely always been known as the pedigree name or registered name? Never heard that referred to as kennel name.

Must be just a breed thing then, as I remember clearly in old year books dogs being referred to as "fred" kennel name "affix freddie whatever".  I've always called it a kennel name, now i shall have to get used to calling it "registered name" that sounds better than pedigree IMHO

> Gottcha, I think.

lol its just like someone getting married really, they ge the extra name :)

(using items around me lol)

a breeder has the affix Phillips and they have pups and you buy a pup called Phillips MP3

you then have an affix Trumpalot, your pup would become Phillips MP3 at/of Trumpalot

so like maiden name and husbands name being double barrelled :)

any pups from Phillips MP3 at Trumpalot would be Trumpalot Whatever.

any clearer?

Absolutely! Like Crystal.Are you a teacher! lol
It is all very fascinating/exciting. I never really fancied getting that serious about our Boxers but maybe because i didn't have so much time.
I've booked us into a Good Citizen group and looking forward to starting that. She can already walk well on a loose lead, sit etc but I'm just gonna go as if she hasn't learnt a thing or more like that i haven't taught her anything!
I've had a look at the Affixes that the KC have registered and some of them are so beautiful it's gonna be really hard to think of one that i like that no one else has! Still I've got plenty of time.
Thanks again

BTW the Avatars on here are too tiny to see properly, is that a gorgeous p.u.g. i can see with a jacket on? :)

Anyone can apply for an Affix they do not even have to own a dog but you can only add your affix to a dog or bitch that has already been registered with the KC and any puppy you breed from dogs that have already been registered.

You can however register a litter without owning an affix providing the sire and dam are registered and the KC will add it's own affix to the names you have chosen, this KC Affix is changed I think every year so you can tell the year by the name if you are up on this sort of info.

One odd thing when you add your affix to a dog you have bought in it goes at the end so the affix becomes a prefix.

>One odd thing when you add your affix to a dog you have bought in it goes at the end so the affix becomes a prefix.

A prefix can only go at the start (preceding the rest of the name). A suffix goes at the end. An affix can go in either place.

glad it made sense :)

good for you doing good citizen, hopefully you and your puglet will have fun :)

i know, when i eventually choose an affix its going to be a nightmare- though i have one in mind, but i don't know if i can have it.

lol, no shes not a gorgeous pug, shes a gorgeous bullmastiff! big size difference there lol but its hard to see in the pics, she is fawn with (obviously) a black mask so i can see why you'd think. thats my mum and dads bitch Kismet, The Most Perfect Dog in the World (tm) with our sadly deceased mastiff Odin (close contender for most perfect dog in the world)

> A prefix can only go at the start (preceding the rest of the name). A suffix goes at the end. An affix can go in either place

Yes, of course, wondered why I had not thought of that before.

OH! Yes definate size difference but similar look! and yes both gorgeous. The fawn looks a lot smaller than the black and I'd guessed that the dark was a young lab or summink. Well the pics are rubbish,can't see much! Couldn't have got it more wrong really eh! lol

lol, it was when she was a pup still but Odin was much bigger than her anyway, he doesn't look like a proper mastiff in it as he was still gaining weight at that point (he was a rescue). photo is about 5 years old. i need to get another of my current laddo up.

> If I remember correctly, when i applied for mine the whole process took 4+ months.

It took mine much, much less, so it depends if you are counting in the time given for someone to object!  Within a couple of weeks my affix was accepted (well, one was, out of the long list!)  The letter I received said not to get anything printed up with the name on it, until it had been published, and given time for anyone to put in an objection.  A few years ago, so wording may not be exact, but that's the gist of it.  I think (memory not what it used to be) that I had a letter accepting the name in around April, but it was something like July before it went in Kennel Gazette.  Does that sound familiar to anyone?

> Does that sound familiar to anyone?

Nah :-)

Sorry Jean, so long ago that I can't remember :-)

It took mine much, much less, so it depends if you are counting in the time given for someone to object!  Within a couple of weeks my affix was accepted (well, one was, out of the long list!)  The letter I received said not to get anything printed up with the name on it, until it had been published, and given time for anyone to put in an objection.  A few years ago, so wording may not be exact, but that's the gist of it.  I think (memory not what it used to be) that I had a letter accepting the name in around April, but it was something like July before it went in Kennel Gazette.  Does that sound familiar to anyone?

Yes, I had the same.  If I remember right mine was about choice 11 or 12!!  They did take a few months to publish it and then had to wait approx 6 weeks after that for any possible objections!

Jill

Must be just a breed thing then, as I remember clearly in old year books dogs being referred to as "fred" kennel name "affix freddie whatever".  I've always called it a kennel name, now i shall have to get used to calling it "registered name" that sounds better than pedigree IMHO

Well maddog, like you I''m not that old and kennel name is what most people referred to their affixes rather than registered name etc :)  Although we don't have "kennels" still say kennel name.

When I applied for my affix (don't like kennel name at all - my dogs live in my house :) ) I only had to give 3 choices - shows how long ago it was!

As a matter of interest, the KC granted someone else in my breed an affix with just one letter different in the middle of the word, the letters even sound very similar!  As I don't get the Kennel Gazette, I only found out when I saw their litter advertised in Dog World.  I was really unimpressed that the KC had let it go through, but they withdrew it when I wrote in to complain.  It could have caused real confusion.

> It took mine much, much less, so it depends if you are counting in the time given for someone to object!  Within a couple of weeks my affix was accepted (well, one was, out of the long list!)  The letter I received said not to get anything printed up with the name on it, until it had been published, and given time for anyone to put in an objection.  A few years ago, so wording may not be exact, but that's the gist of it.  I think (memory not what it used to be) that I had a letter accepting the name in around April, but it was something like July before it went in Kennel Gazette.  Does that sound familiar to anyone?

This is what they started doing a few years ago, granting it provisionally.  In the past you simply had to wait until; they published it and had given time for objections, usually about 3 or 4 months.

I have a KC Affix, 2 GCCF Prefixes and a TICA Cattery Name!  Greedy - me?

NEVER!

Oops not sure what happened there - meant to add that I only use one GCCF affix.  I think the GCCF set up of belonging to a club for a year before being able to apply is good.  Also their one off payment is good too.

> When I applied for my affix (don't like kennel name at all - my dogs live in my house :-) )

I feel exactly the same.

Ditto - I think it sounds awful :(

> I have a KC Affix, 2 GCCF Prefixes and a TICA Cattery Name!  Greedy - me?
>

I had a different affix back in the 70's, but eventually never kept that up when I went in for more obedience interests, and bought dogs rather than bred them.  When I started breeding again, my old affix wasn't accepted.  I wondered at the time why, but it wasn't of huge importance to me.  I guess it could have been too similar to another name accepted since.

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/372

This lists Kennel names awaiting approval :-), tyou don't need to get the kennel gazette.
Angela

hi, i am new to this forum. i just wondered if anyone could help me with a kennel name.
just had a litter and the topic will be famous ruby stones, however we dont have a kennel name.

my grandparents surname is precious and i translated this to a few languages my fav being Spanish- preciosamente but this is longer than 12

other ideas.. her stud is called yogi.. our surname is mills. live in frecheville.. on churchdale road

please help :D:D

It takes several months before you can use an affix, so you won't be able to use one for this litter anyway I'm afraid.

> It takes several months before you can use an affix, so you won't be able to use one for this litter anyway I'm afraid

Actually you can apply for the two at the same time which is what I did many years ago.  Of course the registrations will take longer to complete and you would have to ensure your purchasers understand that but considering they cannot show a puppy for 6 months there is no real reason why it should be a problem.

How did everyone decide thier kennel names? What were the rejected choices?

I think those that would usually be rejected are ones that sound very similar to someone elses, that are already in use or that are offensive in any way. I think lots of people make their names up by adding parts of names or words together, some are so beautiful sounding and just roll off the tongue.
Don't think Kennel names are allowed to be mentioned on here tho in case it's seen as advertising.

I got my first choice. first half of my Christian name plus my foundation bitches call name.

Mine is after a Dutch warmblood horse I had and I think it was my first choice...only choice really.