My nephew has a puppy Doberman, Lola, who is 15 weeks old, he is really worried about her eyes, in particular the right one, she gets like a greyish silvery film, it's transparent and it covers part of her eye's, sometimes both or just one at a time, the right looks abit droopy or like a lazy eye. Last night he got quite afraid as the right pupil looked very large compared to the left, I said for him to put his mind at rest and take her to the vets. He took Lola to the vets this morning, and after an exam the vet said it is perfectly normal all dog's have this, it is just a sign of tiredness. I know he is still worried despite what the vet has said, he is a new "daddy" so to speak, and I guess he can't help feeling like that. Has anyone else had a dog/dogs with this, as far as I can recall none of mine ever have or not that i've noticed. I told him I'd ask on here, hopefully your advice/opinions will put him more at ease.

Thanks Diane

Could it be PHPV>

Second eyelid? They can show if the dog is very tired.

Don't you mean third? We all have two eyelids!

I googled PHPV just to see what the symptoms are, but I can't seem to find a clear description or pictures of what an eye might look like with PHPV, some of the symptoms mentioned don't match up ie spots or debris in her eye.
If you no anymore info though i'd be grateful for any help, thanks.

Diane

PHPV photograph

Thankyou for that Moonmaiden, I am happy to say that her eye does not look like any of the pictures on the link, I will show him them too and hopefully he feels a little less anxious.

Diane

If i were that concerned i would ask for a referral to an Opthamologist and get them to check out the pup's eyes.
Hope all is well and nothing too concerning in any way.

PHPV can also be very mild with very little to see, and dobes and Staffs are the breeds usually affected.  It is inherited as a dominant condition so if both parents were eye tested (it will say on the pups KC registration document) then it won't be PHPV, unless one parent had it so mild that it wasn't seen on eye exam..

There is a  list of BVA Panel Ophthalmologists here:

Details of how to have a standard eye test are here: http://www.bva.co.uk/public/documents/EP_list_July_2008.pdfhttp://www.bva.co.uk/canine_health_schemes/Eye_Scheme.aspx

> If i were that concerned i would ask for a referral

He takes Lola to the p.d.s.a vets as he is on a low income, (she is also insured a must have IMO) they kinda of laughed at him, and did not show much concern, which I think wasn't helpful at all, it's his first puppy solo if you get what I mean, and he was well prepared for her arrival, he had her at the vets with a swollen cheek, she was caught whilst playing with either his cat or another dog, he was nearly in tears bless him. I think this latest event has knocked him abit, his girlfriends mum said she will call their vet (royal veterinary college) and ask them for a second opinion.

> Hope all is well and nothing too concerning in any way

Me too Suejaw she is such a lovely girl and he dotes on her, all six feet and 17 stone of him lol dogs they do do it to us :-)

Diane

I can't get on the link Brainless, it says HTTP 400 bad request. When I did my original search I did notice it was more common in Dobbies and Staffs, as I have said to Suejaw he is going to go for a second opinion.

As far as I know, (from what he has told me) neither parents had any health problems.

> PHPV can also be very mild with very little to see

But then like you say it could of been so mild it may not of been seen. It is quite hard to explain how it looks, when he had her at the vets they did see the eye in the condition that I am trying to describe albeit not very well sorry.

Thanks

Diane

Trying again.

The link for the panelists (which I forgot before): http://www.bva.co.uk/public/documents/EP_list_July_2008.pdf

About the eye scheme: http://www.bva.co.uk/canine_health_schemes/Eye_Scheme.aspx

As for the pups parents on the Kennel Club registration document if should show under health schemes against each of the parents the test result for eyes., if it doesn't then they haven't been tested.

(Looks like I might have combined the links before which is why it didn't work)

Thankyou for that they both work now.

> The link for the panelists

There is one on there from the Royal Veterinary college, which is the vets he is going to for a second opinion so if she is given a referral to the Queen Mother Hospital I know she will be in excellent hands, as Fudge was in there.

I will quiz him further for her paperwork tomorrow he is in a delicate condition today :-)

Thanks again

Diane

Just a quick update, all her paperwork says tests were clear.
He has not seen the film over Lola's eye's since last Friday, he told me she seemed alot better after some long periods of sleep. Hopefully over tiredness was the cause as mentioned in an above post. I did mention PHPV and tried not to scare him but educate him just incase. He does seem a little more at ease I knew CD would save the day again!
Thanks Diane