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Topic Dog Boards / Showing / Junior warrant?
- By lesleyanne [in] Date 13.12.08 21:59 UTC
Hi,
can anybody explain simply the points  system to me please, i have a border terrier i wish to start showing but have been told there is a certain amount of points you need to qualify for a junior warrant.
Regards
Lesley
- By STARRYEYES Date 13.12.08 22:42 UTC
http://www.collienet.com/KC%20Junior%20Warrant.htm
- By malibu Date 14.12.08 23:30 UTC
This might help too

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/610

Emma
- By PERADUASTRA [gb] Date 22.12.08 21:43 UTC
Hi Leslie,
To gain a junior warrant you will need to win a first at a champ show for your breed
valued at 4 points with three dogs entered and must be in the class.
I think you need 21 points from open shows again three dogs presented on the day.
I think you might be struggling to gain your points before your dog reaches 18 months.
All depends on your entrys for your breed.
     Good Luck.
- By Lily Mc [eu] Date 23.12.08 00:05 UTC

> To gain a junior warrant you will need to win a first at a champ show for your breed
> valued at 4 points with three dogs entered and must be in the class.
> I think you need 21 points from open shows again three dogs presented on the day.


I know the right info will be on the links given, but (excuse me, Peraduastra) will just correct the info written above here too so people don't take the wrong info away as it's in front of them ...

You need 25 points for a JW

Points must be won between 6 and 18 months of age

You get 3 points for winning a class at a CHAMP show with at least 3 dogs present in the class

You get 1 point for winning a class at an OPEN show with at least 3 dogs present in the class

If there were not 3 dogs in your class so you didn't get a point, but you won BOB at an open show, you can claim 1 point for this

You must win at least 3 points at open shows (3 class wins) and at least 3 points at a champ show (1 class win) - the remainder of the points can come from either type of show or a mix

Only wins in breed classes count, not variety classes

M.
- By suz1985 [gb] Date 23.12.08 22:45 UTC
do you get point for BOB even if there arent three entered in the class you won?
- By briedog [gb] Date 23.12.08 23:02 UTC
you got to have 3 dogs judged to gain the 1 piont for BOB all can be in different classes
- By suz1985 [gb] Date 23.12.08 23:04 UTC
sorry for being thick, but for example, 1 dog in 1 class and 2 in the other, as long as 3 dogs in total?
- By beardiesokay [gb] Date 24.12.08 10:30 UTC
Yes, that's right, as long as 3 are present in the BREED, if you get BOB, you get 1 point.

Kay
- By PERADUASTRA [gb] Date 01.01.09 20:49 UTC
 
M.I stand corrected on JwPoints,
Afraid living in the past dosen't help.But you see I did it in the old fashioned way!

Have a nice day.
- By abraham [gb] Date 02.01.09 13:46 UTC
Word of warning re JW, start as soon as pup reaches 6 months and go to loads of open shows, especially if a bitch, dont like me decide at 12 months to go for it, we finished at 18 months on a very very disoppointing 24 points.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 02.01.09 17:11 UTC
and enter through the classes.

Often a nice puppy will beat a gangly gawky junior, or higher.
- By suz1985 [gb] Date 03.01.09 01:50 UTC
thats rubbish abraham!! poor you. my boy has a few points, and has just turned 12 months, but i dont think i'll be chasing it as such, too gangly and lean at the moment!!
- By marion [gb] Date 03.01.09 09:06 UTC
What matters more? Useless points that really count for nothing, dragging your precious puppy around the country to every show that you can physically manage to enter. Or letting your puppy enjoy life, enjoy showing and staying interested through to its senior years. Hopefully on the way getting a Stud Book number or better still C.C.s.
When I was Secretary of a Canine Society, I used to receive entries putting a puppy in every single class that it was eligible for with no thought for the pup and how exhausted it would be.
- By abraham [gb] Date 03.01.09 09:56 UTC
agree Marion, thats why i did not bother until she was 12 months, still would of loved the title though, must say though i very rearly put her in more than one breed class and she loves her days out.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 03.01.09 14:32 UTC
Less tiring to enter several classes (after all they will be a seen dog) at one shwo than more shows.

My older champion never managed to get her JW as at the tiem she woudl ahve needed 10 Open shwo class wins.  she actually did, but 4 of them didn't have enough dogs.  She actually ahd over 30 points, but not enough at Open shows.

Her daughter has her JW though didn't win a single point in puppy classes (numbers too low), and didn't get a single point until she was in Junior, got her last point at LKA when she also won the RCC and she was 15 months.

A puppy that has won 9 of our 19 CC shows BPIB awards, has puppy groups hasn't any points at all, his sister has got hers, though not done nearly as much winning until the CC at LKA.

In my breed a JW is far harder to get than a title.
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