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Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / walking
- By lyricalwaxer [gb] Date 30.10.08 14:30 UTC
we have 2 SBT's 3 1/4 male ( boomer) & 11 month bitch ( keekee).
our conundrum relates to boomer.he had no issues with being introduced to a lead in the garden @ 8-12 weeks; however,from day 1 of 'real walking' he has displayed a 'fear' of walking, i.e. prior to the lead being put on,he will cower & shake in his bed,lock on whilst being walked to the door, & depending on his 'mood' lock on for part or most of his walk
(we use a variety of routes & his behaviour is not prescribed by a particular route[s]).
he is unresponsive to the offer of treats (even as a training aid in puppy class). his other walking traits include 'edging', i.e. walking very close to walls,fences etc, to the extent that he will attempt to pull you to a wall, regardless of what might be closer to it,e.g. a pedestrian. he aslo has a fear of loud/sudden noises ( so much so that we rarely let him off his lead as experience has taught us that he will RUN & his road sense is hopeless),from sounds as mundane as a car door closing through to fireworks( which i know do frighten many animals). tv & domestic sounds don't bother him.
things we have tried re his walking:
stoppping,count to 10 & walk on. walk back in the direction we have come from for 20 paces or so. zig zag when safe to do so. walk in the middle of the road,when safe.
the introduction of keekee ( who  is fearless) hasn't altered his beahviour.
to the best of our knowledge he wasn't traumatised before we got him. our home is a stable one,with both dogs reciving equal amounts of tlc & exercise.
thoughts from all you wise ones out there please.
damian
- By Staff [gb] Date 30.10.08 16:17 UTC
Have you asked for any help previous to now as I'm assuming Boomer has had this problem for 3 yrs now?

Have you tried just putting his lead on while he is in your front room with you and then just letting him relax, try giving him tasty treats while he's in the room with you.  Once he has relaxed and calmed down take the lead off.  Practice this a few times per day and over the next couple weeks see if you see an improvement.

Gradually build this up to walking around the room with him on his lead, lots of praise when he is relaxed and enjoying himself (involve toys and treats).  If this was my dog and he became nervous or cowered I would ignore this behaviour so he doesn't accidently get rewarded for it.

My Staffie used to have a habit of jumping on and walking along walls like children tend to want to do...very bizarre!

What have you done to make him walk over the last few years???

Lucy
- By mastifflover Date 30.10.08 17:43 UTC
Taking him out for a walk while he is this scared is only going to make him more frightened, he won't be able to trust you if you insist he goes for a scarey walk or even if you insist he follow you to the front door (this is not having a go at you, it's more of 'from the dogs point of view')

I had this problem with my pup, he was used to the lead in the house & garden but was frightened to go out for a 'proper' walk. He would happily have his lead on unless I was headng down the hall to the front door, he would then freak out.
I used to go and sit inside by the front door (with it shut), if pup showed any interest in me (looked in my direction) I would chuck a treat to him. This progresed to him being brave enough to sit by the door with me.
I then introduced the lead and would have it clipped to pup's collar while we sat by the door, when he was comfortable with that we would sit inside with the door opn, all the while lots of treats and praise for any signs of interest in outside (eg. curious sniffing).
We then would sit outside the door for about 30 mins twice aday, just sat on my front lawn so pup could get used to the sights, sounds and smells of the big wide world, again, lots of treats and praise.
After what must have been a few weeks, we actually went for a walk - a few yards down the road and strait home. Gradually the distance was increased and now at 15 months old my dog LOVES going for a walk, occasionally he'll see something that will make him a little nervous, but I've sussed out how to give him confidence. He saw 2 traffic cones stuck in the middle of the path (in a field) and started to spook, I let his lead out longer (long-line) so he could retreat if he wanted while I walked up to the traffic cones, coupied down, stroked the cones and had a happy little chat to them - I must have looked like a complete wierdo but it showed my dog that I thought they were friends, now when he see's traffic cones he like to go & greet them!

I found that too much verbal encouragement (ie, 'come see', 'what's this') was just too much pressure for pup and would help to freak him out, it worked better for us if I kept my mouth shut untill he did somthing that warrented praise (step towards door, curious sniffing etc..).

As well as being frightened by going for a walk, this is something he has done for years so has conditioned himself to act like this and turn it into a habbit, he needs a lot of work to help him get over this. I think a behaviourist would be the best bet.
- By lyricalwaxer [gb] Date 31.10.08 10:25 UTC
Thanks Lucy. We will try your suggestions.We do use a 'long line' with him,which seems to confuse hime too... lol. he doesn't lock on with it,but will look to 'do a runner' with it on.Having seen the positive comments about the Dogmatic,we will consider getting one for each of them
Topic Dog Boards / Behaviour / walking

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