Hi All
can someone recommend a supplement to encourage coat growth in a long coated breed - tibetan terrier

Many Thank's
Ginastarr

Royal Jelly.

"Groomers" do a supplement and shampoo.

What kind of shampoo do you use?  What do you currently feed?  I've found that regular grooming encourages the coat more than anything in the diet.  Like with people, regular trims do encourage healthy growth, as does massaging the hair follicles (brushing basically).  Hair is made from protein so a diet high in protein would be recommended, however too much protein can damage the kidneys.

She is fed on Arden Grange Lamb and Rice , i also give her an  evening primrose supplement , she is brushed out everyday with mason and pearson bristle brush edited to add - i also give biotin

>however too much protein can damage the kidneys.

Is this from recent or old information? Because up to date research has debunked the "High protein =kidney damage" theories.

Diet as well as genes IMO play the most signifcant role in coats - like everything really, so much is nature and the rest nurture. 

That said RESTORE (second last on page) is a good product for assisting holding onto coats ready to blow or promoting slightly more rapid growth - it's a powder so best fed with a moist food :)

HTH, Teri

>however too much protein can damage the kidneys.

Is this from recent or old information? Because up to date research has debunked the "High protein =kidney damage" theories.

Well for every scientific argument there is a scientific counter-argument.  Regardless, the body will only take what it needs, so protein is peed out if it is not absorbed, same with vitamin suppliments.  If a dog already has kidney damage then they are recommended to eat a low protein diet so as not to aggravate the problem.  Perhaps this is where I got confused with my info?

OP - Sounds like you are doing all you can with your dog's coat.  I can say from experience that all you need is patience, though it is very frustrating.  My dogs coats, though full brothers, grow at different speeds.

Thank's all i have been told it is line's , especially her father's side , and to be patient , we wont have any more show's till next march so i am hoping there will be a difference by then , and some judge's look at the whole dog and not just the coat :-)

Georgina

In my humble opinion you breed for coat- not feed for it. Assuming of course, that in a level playing field trial, all show dogs would have a top quality diet anyway.
I don't do pills,potions and supplements yet my latest puppy has lots of coat, infact rather exteme for her age....but that's because her mother has.

An unpopular opinion with the manufacturers who sell millions of pounds worth of 'supplements' I'm sure.

So if little Miss has decided that blowing her coat 10 days before a champ show is a great idea do you think Restore would help or is it too late. She's so ornery! :)

Too late! :-D

See, ornery! I can't take her anywhere. ;-)

Sorry hun - 3-4 weeks maybe, but if you're counting days you're needing to wrap her in clingfilm and only tickle the top of her head :-D

How about hoi-ing her out in the cold overnight. :-p

Ice bath? well, she had one of those already this morning

maybe a wig...

> maybe a wig...

I could make her one out of the HUGE bag full of hair I've just blasted out of one of mine (luckily for once not one entered in the near future!) -  and it's the right colour too (well, pretty much :-D )

Could be an interesting new look

Lol!  I'm sure there is a market for dog toupe's :-) 

> Lol!  I'm sure there is a market for dog toupe's

Elton John maybe?  :)

> So if little Miss has decided that blowing her coat 10 days before a champ show is a great idea do you think Restore would help or is it too late

I wouldn't waste my money on Restore.     Buy some Quistel.

TBH I've never used supplements or coat treatments. She gets a bath and a brushing and goes au naturale - kind of like me. :) It's just one of those things isn't it. And, her coat is keeping her warm when swimming in the north sea or like this morning, when walking in snow and hail so if it keeps her warm and dry the judge will have to like her as is. ;-)

I'm slightly puzzled that my golden boy is having a HUGE moult at the moment, the weather is freezing, so a bit baffled, any ideas why?

House dogs don't need seasonal coats :)  One of mine is not far off naked at the moment but she just snuggles up on the sofa with the OH and hasn't a care in the world.  Another is in thick, plush coat and perhaps less comfortable with the CH being on but (hormones!) due a coat spurt so that's the way it goes :)

Providing your lad's skin looks healthy (as does his general condition) it's almost certainly down to natural change over in coat and nothing much you can do about it except brush or bath out the last of it and regular grooming will help stimmulate the new coat coming in.

regards, Teri

I use seagreens (with Kelp) in the morning feeding, and VENTURE in the evening feeding.  My one girl is pretty bald on her neck and infront of her ears.  It seems to help keep the coat she has there, but as far as growing more in, some days she looks like she has more coat, other days she doesnt. 

Providing your lad's skin looks healthy (as does his general condition) it's almost certainly down to natural change over in coat and nothing much you can do about it except brush or bath out the last of it and regular grooming will help stimmulate the new coat coming in.

Thanks Teri :) I was getting paranoid, brushing him last night I could have supplied all hair for the wigs being discussed on this thread!  His skin looks fine, he is as bouncy as ever and even though he has lost so much coat, can't really see where it has come from, (well his coat is shorter on his back), but I keep worrying just in case he gets a bald patch! 

Regarding TT's

I didn't realise until i had a few that there was such a variation in coat texture and growth rate.  My oldest bitch is deff. a wire haired TT (wonders could she market this a designer breed) joking honest.  Nightmare coat, breaks easily and despite all the latest supplements refuses to grow much.  Then there's the boy, now if you could sell dog wigs he could furnish a factory however his coat is very soft as well as profuse so using a shampoo for horses atm works a treat.

Next girl has a coat like human hair and didnt have much of it until she was about 18 months now she has a fabulous coat, no suppliements, and lastly baby - like Pop a hair coat - lovely.

It realy is in the genes.

I used fit and fertile life stages powder after my girl had her litter to get her coat back into condition and boy did it work her coat is lovely now, you could see the new coat coming though , I was very impressed.

Roni

i see there are two companies sellling 'fit and fertile ' or fit'n'fertile i used the fit'n'fertile last year and did not see much difference so should i try the fit and fertile product , confusing that's for sure , but willing to try anything

http://www.fitandfertile.com/
this is the website didnt know thee was two different companies?

Roni

you could try yumaga. (a cold pressed oil that you put on there food)
as i am using it at the moment and have noticed an improvment already and its only been 10 days.
i belive pets at home stock it now so you dont need to get it from a champ show as before.

does anyone use oil to protect the coat , like lanolin

Georgina

If it's a question of blowing coat after season / puppies, I found Yumega helped to restore my Cav's coat after puppies very quickly.

Dorwest herbs keepers mix.

So does that mean the seagreen is working or not?? If the coats already gone? 8-) Just kidding by the way!

OR...just try giving her a zinc tablet everyday...look at my Storm and see the difference a lil 'ole tab can do! Seriously Zinc is used for coat and skin conditions, so it should help a bit and it's a cheap option!