Hi can anyone on here tell me where I can get raised single feeders.  All the ones in the pet shops and on the internet are all double.  I saw one in a pet warehouse which would've been ideal but it was too small and the shop can't order anymore.  Also some of them are over £30 and I need 3 single ones so I was looking to pay about a tenner each.

Thanks

we make our own for about £2 each but if you go to a champ show then there are always lots there.

Luxway do single stands for 10-15. That's just the stand.

Interestingly that link claims that a raised feeder reduces the risk of bloat whereas everything I've read on the subject suggests the opposite to be true,link here..

http://www.raidthewind.com/bloat.htm

Apparently a study done in the states suggests it can increase the risk by 110% (not that I understand what 110% is supposed to be).Owning a boxer I would be interested to hear others opinions.I've sinse used mine just for water.

I've seen that report a few times and personally I think it's simply a case that most breeds that are prone to bloat use raised feeders. Some of them will still get bloat despite the feeding stand. It's a bit like saying most people who have heart attacks have 10 fingernails- therefore having 10 fingernails causes heart attacks ;-)

I've yet to get my hands on a full version of that study. It was done at Purdue University. From the small amount I've read it looked like the study was more observational and not run as a blind study. That is, they looked at the dogs that suffered from bloat and then at how many ate from raised bowls to come to their conclusions. I find that unlikely as it wouldn't be very good science so I'd be interested to see their materials and methods for the study.

You said it quicker Tigger! :)

i think splendidpets.co.uk do them, i'm sure it was that stand i saw at a show.

Thanks for the replys,that is interesting,I'd not thought about it from that perspective.It seems to have made it's way in to mainstream knowledge (at least on alot of the US forums).I expect another study will be released at some point to contradict the first as is the way with these things.

i got one from Richmond champ show last year and it only cost 7.99.
Tall enough for my Newfs too.

I found a quote from Glickman, the man who ran the study, here:

"Glickman presented some of the findings from his most recent "Five Year Purdue University Prospective Study of Gastric Dilatation-Volvulus" at Canine Health Conference held in St. Louis in October 1999 and sponsored by the AKC Canine Health Foundation.  The purpose of the study was to isolate risk factors in order to identify the environmental situations and characteristics of dogs that make them more susceptible to the condition.

"We followed nearly 2000 dogs belonging to 11 breeds for up to five years to determine which one would develop bloat and which ones would not.  Then, we related that data back to things like their breed, size, shape, personality, age, genetics, diet and how they were managed," he explains.

The study was a two part risk analysis performed at the breed individual dog levels.  At the conference, Glickman reported on the first part, the breed analysis findings, which are complete, but reported only the preliminary findings of the second part, the individual dog risk factors, which still are being analyzed at the time of this writing."

That bit highlighted in bold is what bothers me. Following large and giant breed dogs is not the same as running a controlled study. If 90% of the people that own a great dane feed it from a raised bowl then of course there will be more dogs that ate from raised bowls in the population that suffered from GDV. I'd really like to see a study where litters were split with half fed one way and half another - then let's see the results. If anyone has read the full paper I'd be really interested in knowing how the risk analysis was performed. (I suppose I should just buy it shouldn't I :))

Very interesting,plus without feeding them all exactly the same food  and giving them the same kind of excercise at exactly the same time of day etc it wouldn't realy be a controlled study.

Just to add,I know someone who's made her own raised feeders using a bowel stuck to an upturned bucket.

> I know someone who's made her own raised feeders using a bowel stuck to an upturned bucket.

Until our dog reached full height I used a succession of tubs and buckets.  The best one was a bucket that fat balls for the birds came in - we cut a hole in the bottom and it was perfect size for an 8" bowl.  I left the lid on the opposite end so that I could put a brick in it for weight to stop it being shuffled about the floor or knocked over!

If you stay in a Travelodge the metal buckets that they use for bins are perfect for an 8" bowl and a tallish dog

My current feeders are made by Classic.  I have the coop style ones that I attach to the outside of their crates - means you have have them at whatever height you need for your dog and nice to keep them off the floor.  I have another raised feeder that I use for travelling that can be dismantled to save room - here

>Just to add,I know someone who's made her own raised feeders using a bowel stuck to an upturned bucket.

One of mine gets her bowl placed on top of a large plastic storage container (which holds their biscuits & treats and sits on the kitchen floor anyway) and the other has his bowl on a step :-)  I had raised feeders in the past but they were just additional clutter.

I've just realised my typo there,should say "bowl" (embarrassed smilie)
I find mine realy good for their outside water as the hedgehogs can't scale the raised feeder,I'd often find them trying to climb in when it was on the ground.

I use to use a raised feeder, but also hearing that it can increase the risk of bloat, not sure though..... they use to say the opposite. just use it for water now :)

i also put mines food on the bottom step of the stairs, just lucky that there are stairs in that room
should water also be given raised???