do thay all die at same time or is it 1 by 1 ? ive lost one ,and now i think another is dieing ,it stoping sucking

5 out of 9 of the pups are dehydrated ,taking them to vets in morning but what can i give them tonight ? is cool boiled water enough ? or is there anything eles i can give them , im worried sick . thankyou

I don't think I would leave it to the morning that is a long time for a small puppy.  Why are they dehydrated?  Have you checked their mouths?  Are the other four hogging all the milk or are you rotating who gets on the best teats?

im doing it all ,im sure its the heat , its the small 2 and big 2 ,so i just dont know ive check there mouths

no way would i leave a dehydrated puppy over night they can die from this

Yes, don't leave it. 

My pups last year were a little dehydrated as mums milk was thick being colostrum so i just topped them up with whelpi or lactol.

Louise

Doesnt your vets do an out of hours service? If not look for a vet that does in the yellow pages. Ring them all if needs be, one will be 24hours.

You should always have a few sachets (or more if you have a large breed) of Lectade in your whelping kit http://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Lectade-Small-Animal-Sachet-single/productinfo/LECSAS/ in case of emergencies like this.

Please try all the vets though, or you will lose those pups!

How are they this morning? Is it hot where you are cos it's freezing here!
We had 2 dehydrated but they were quite a bit older and ended up staying at the vets with the intention of putting them on a drip. In the event they couldn't get the drip in so they had to be syringed with lectade every 30 minutes. They were fine but we were lucky.

Praying for your pups...

took them to vets 3 of them deyhdrated but vet says its not to bad ,thay gave them saine ,but ive rush one of them to vets to night not looking good ,shes stoped sucking but everything eles with her is fine ,im sooooo tired only had 16h sleep in a week ,not good but it will get better soon i hope ,thankyou for your help x

Hope she's ok this morning and you too!

thankyou pippaj ,ringing vets at 10 ,praying shes going to start sucking again .

as any one had this happen to them? pup is 5 days old shes been at vets all night and the vet dont know why shes stoped!! there feeding her with seringe ,can any one there help please ,im frightend we going to loose her x

Is this one of the dehydrated ones? She might just not have any strength to suck. If she hasn't fed properly previously then I'm afraid there may be an underlying problem. So sorry to hear you're having such a bad time of it.

spoke with vet again ,she said its not looking good ,thay have put her to sleep ,it was the best thing for her ,i dont want her suffering till she died (god bless little angel)

So sorry for your loss ,sleep peacefully little one.

I know what you are going through, we had a small male that was not suckling, every 2 hours i were syringing welpi into him and every 4 hours a puppy survival serum, but sadly he lost his fight at 5 dys old, its heartbreaking, touch wood the others are all doing fine, thinking of you

Oh White Lilly, I am so sorry. Did the vet say what was wrong?
RIP sweet puppy.

I am so sorry to hear about the poor puppy, at least she isnt suffering now, rip little puppy.
I hope all your other puppies will be ok, my thoughts are with you. X

White lilly
We are sorry for your loss too,  hope that the other puppies just go from strength to strength now and that you can find some peace
All the best for the next few days

Your IP and details say that you are in the UK, can I ask what heat?  The UK at the moment isn't really basking in sunshine.  Have you got heating pads etc on the?  Sounds as though there's more going on and I'd want a more thorough checkup.

Hope pups are much better.

hi perrodeague ,just rang them ,shes still not sucking ,its not hot here now ,all other pups are doing well now just the small one ,thay want me to go and get her and seringe feed her but i just know shes not going to live ,i just dont know what to do !!!!!! do i tell them to put her tosleep or do i feed her ? god i dont know

I agree with Perrodeagua if it was me and I was worried whether one of my pups would survive i would be getting the vets to thoroughly check them over and if I wasn't happy then i'd ask to see another vet.

Fingers crossed for you

where abouts are you, isn't there anyone close that can help ?

((((((((((((((white lilly))))))))))))))))
So sorry to har you're having trouble.
I hope you've got lots of help and support.
I'd let the vet guide you - if they think it's worth feeding the pup then it's got to be worth a try.
Good luck, thinking of you and your pups, let us know what happens.

So sorry to hear about your little one :-(

Is there anyone that can help you so that you can get some rest?

(((hug)))

thankyou so much fo your kind words everyone im still crying alot about the pup (still tired) but all the others seen to be doing fine ,there weight is going on well about from one of the girls so ive started topping her up and shes loving it :) ,just need to get thru the next week ,carnt beleave there a week old tomorrow !!! you know when thay are pooing everwhere im not going to be botherd ,just as long as thay are all ok thats all i care about ,did get some sleep last night (about 5h) so thing are starting to look up x

Hello white lilly :-)
I'm glad you got some sleep.
Any news on the little pup who wasn't feeding?
Keep us posted x

hi rachel we had to put her to sleep on sat morning it broke my heart but she was suffering ,all the others are doing good tho so im trying not to think about it ,every time i do i carnt stop crying x

Sorry to hear that white lilly :-(
I know it's easy for me to say but try not to dwell on that one pup - you did what you had to. Thankfully you have plenty of healthy pups to enjoy :-)
Keep us posted :-) :-)

thankyou rachel ,yes your right the other pups are healthy !! :)i weighd them this morning like every morning ,thay are doing so well x
i will keep u posted x

> i weighd them this morning like every morning ,thay are doing so well x
>

That is fantastic news :-) :-)

o god im loosing another one

Oh no :-(
What's happened? What did the vet say?

((((white lilly))))
I've just replied to your other post. So sorry to hear you're having more trouble.
I'm sure someone who can help you will be along shortly.
Got everything crossed for you.

http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/39665.html

There is a phone number on this post.

http://www.showdogsupersite.com/kenlclub/breedvet/fading.html

This page seems helpful too.

Hi White Lily
Fading puppy syndrome is usually caused when organisms with are normally present in the alimentary canal become pathogenic for no known reason. The bug builds up and very quickly becomes lethal. The usual culprit is E-coli. Separate any puppies which appear to be fading and try syringe feeding with a little live yoghurt, thinned down if neccessary with a small amount of boiled and cooled water. Feed this hourly and at blood temperature. It's many years since I had this problem and your vet may have an anti-biotic which can help. Good Luck

Hi White Lily

Google this website its called fit and fertile, they sell something called puppy survival, its colostrum in a tube, it didnt help our fading puppy but it could help yours, i believe it is wonderful stuff, sometimes a congenital defect could make them fade then it is hopeless, but give it atry at least you know you have done all you can the, also buy some welpi its the closest thing to mothers milk, good luck i know how stressful and upsetting it is losing puppies, i have just been there, litter of 11,, 3 were stillborn and the 4th was the puppy that faded, istruggled for 2 days/nights feeding him puppy survival(every 4 hours) and (welpi every )  we  have 7 remaining puppies all thriving now.
Good luck with them, you know where we all are if you need us.P.S the guy on the website is very good in what he does, i know him personally as he scans my females at the house, he recommends to give this colostrum to every new born puppy to give them the best start in life, also to give mother a shot whilst welping as it gives energy also, i now have a supply in for next time.