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Topic Dog Boards / Health / petit mal seizures
- By BETTYBOO1963 [gb] Date 10.05.08 10:15 UTC
My 23 month old weim has had 3 petit mal seizures in the last 6/8 months.I have been to the vet and he has taken blood samples for kidney and liver, i am waiting for the results.
However I was wondering if anyone else's dog has these seisures and what am i likely to expect in the future.
The seizures are mild and my boy is awake and aware. I wrote in a previous post that he had some aggression issues and i had him castrated, however the agression is still there occassionally but the vet has suggested that this could be linked with the seizures as it coincides with the onset of the seizures.
Anyway just wondered if anyone had any advice on the seizures.
Fingers crossed with the results and that it can be managed without drugs.
Oh and i have recently changed his diet to Arden Grange from tripe and mixer biscuit as i read a more natural diet was beneficial with epilepsy.
- By Jeangenie [gb] Date 10.05.08 10:26 UTC
Sorry to hear about your boy's epilepsy. Make sure you tell his breeder so that the mating that produced him isn't repeated.

There's a lot of information about canine epilepsy on the net: you'll find this site very useful, and you might find the Canine Epilepsy Support Group helpful.
- By BETTYBOO1963 [gb] Date 10.05.08 12:52 UTC
Unfortunately the breeder has moved and i dont have a forwarding address.I will have a look at the links you have suggested.
- By Polly [gb] Date 10.05.08 16:15 UTC
Hi,

I had a dog with petit mal and like your boy he had an agression problem. I found that living on his own helped. I was worried he would attack somebody or another dog with out any warning. With him I would have no warning what so ever he was about to attack, but with in minutes he would suddenly stop, look very dazed (like the lights were on and nobody was home) then he would gradually come round out of it and be as nice and friendly as possible, even with the dog he had just had the punch up with. In the end I could not keep living with him kept separately and never knowing what he might attack so did the only thing I could. He never responded to any form of meds. It was all very sad. My boy was about 14 to 18 months when it all started.

My own vet said it was part of his medical condition, so would think your dog may be the same as Callum was.
- By Kasshyk [gb] Date 10.05.08 20:48 UTC
Could you not contact the breed club to see if they have a forwarding address for the breeder? If you could identify any affixes on his paperwork they should be able to help or even the KC?
Angela
- By calmstorm Date 10.05.08 23:32 UTC
Unless you have an affix for the breeder its a bit like fishing in the sea.....chance you might get there eventually so worth trying :)
- By Marieukxx [gb] Date 11.05.08 08:24 UTC Edited 11.05.08 08:37 UTC
My older Chihuahua is 12 and is epileptic. He has Grand Mal Seizures and it's very frightening to watch when it first starts happening. I thought he was dying the first time it happened. He basically goes stiff as a board and falls to his side and starts flailing about yelping with his eyes rolled back in his head. This lasts less than a minute and then he comes round, he also wets himself everytime. This always happens when he's in a resting state (sleeping). The vet said with epileptic dogs this is usually the case. It's very very rare a dog will have a seizure whilst active.

It is very important that you keep a detailed diary of these seizures. Write down what time and date they happen, what happens during the fit and it's VERY important to note down how long it lasts. During the fit the only thing you can do for your dog is stay calm. Move any stuff that your dog can hurt himself on out of the way. Turn off the lights. Afterwards don't fuss him just keep him calm and quiet. vets will probably never have the chance to see your dog having a fit so what you observe is all that they can go on so it's important to note all this information down. They need to know the duration and times and dates. If there is no other medical reason your vet can find for the fits then your dog will probably be diagnosed as epileptic. Now depending on the lenght of time between the fits and how severe they are your dog may be put on tablets probably Phenobarbitol to reduce the number of fits he has. This is lifelong once started but you will get used to this. I don't think though that your dog will be put on tablets at this stage as they are so mild.

My dog has fits about every 6 months so my vet has advised against the medication at the moment. But they have been getting closer together now 4 months apart and he said that when they 6 weeks apart then he will start the medication to reduce them. Your vet will advise you on what's best for your dog. Don't be afraid if your dog is diagnosed as epileptic. I was very upset at first but your dog can still lead a happy and full life. If you do have to have your dog on tablets for this there are some side effects but they do get over these after a while. They will eat and drink more and be a bit wobbly and out of it. This subsides after a few weeks though.

As the seizures are mild at the moment and not very frequent your dog probably won't be put on any meds but do keep the diary of when and what happens and the length. It's so very important. It builds a picture for your vet. You can see if the fits are getting longer or more severe or more frequent. My boy started having one very 7 months then 6 now 4. Sadly they often see this, where they just get closer together as time goes on. I would also advise a medical alert tag for your dog just in case anything happens. I never let my boy out of my sight when we're out but it makes me feel better knowing if he does go missing someone will know he has this problem.

Like I said I doubt your vet will advise meds at this stage but if they do turn into grand mal like my boy has don't be afraid. I am ready to put my boy on the tablets when my vet thinks it's right but at them moment it's not worth doing that considering the length of time between each fit.

I hope this helps you.
- By BETTYBOO1963 [gb] Date 12.05.08 18:12 UTC
Thanks for all your replies, i am still waiting for blood test results that he had last week.Luckily at the moment the seizures have been really mild he just gets up and stumbles about a bit, I always try to get him to come lay down afterwards and he is always absolutely back to normal, so fingers crossed it may not get worse, who knows.I have seen a dog on You tube having exactly the same seizure as Dylan had, so I knew what it was straight away , and the dog on the video was actually in his vet surgery when having his seizure.
Luckily i have the dates of the first and last seizure, missed the middle one.
- By tadog [gb] Date 12.05.08 18:56 UTC
I had a dog (rescue dog, a proper rescue dog that had had a very cruel life) that had Peti mal seizures, we did get him blood tested, and he was on epliease and epivan till a few months before he died. Interestingly he did still have the peti mal seizures when on the tabs but not as bad.   Then my ex and i split up and from the day my ex left my boy hardly had a fit!!  I always had him in the bedroom with me all his life as I worried that he took on when he was with the other dogs. (he only took during the night) I didnt want the other dogs upset.  
- By BETTYBOO1963 [gb] Date 13.05.08 18:54 UTC
Got the blood test results and they showed no abnormalities.
So for the time being things are going to be left as they are , no meds or anything , and just keep an eye on things.
- By Marieukxx [gb] Date 14.05.08 12:37 UTC
That's what I am doing with my dog. Meds just reduce the amount of seizures they don't stop them totally so if they aren't frequent then there is no point to medication.
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