Would anyone know that uses the electic heat pads with the waterproof washable cover if they are okay to be used under Vetbed? I know that the metal ones are not safe as they get too hot. Thanks

I use mine under vetbed xx

The metal one I have is safe. I put it inside a fleece pillow slip , layer of paper and vet bed on top of that. No problem. My preferred source of heat to be honest. 

I used electric heat pad for first time and had a problem with it at first .I had it under vetbed on 2 corners but my bitch must have moved vetbed off part of one and one of my little pups scratched her leg on plastic edge which is sharp to young puppies skin .If you are going to use them make a secure cover for them then put under vetbed.

> The metal one I have is safe. I put it inside a fleece pillow slip , layer of paper and vet bed on top of that. No problem. My preferred source of heat to be honest. 

Would that be the Petnap one? Only they state DO NOT use under Vetbed and only use a single thin layer to cover.

They are putting that on there as a disclaimer only. I did see it when it appeared quite recently.

I think some of the cheaper thick bedding maybe a bit troublesome. I think Profleece although good enough bedding is a bit thick for the heat pad.

I personally use the Orginial vet bed gold/original only and it is perfect. The heat comes through no problem and is perfect.

I use it for the first 2 weeks and my pups are not left unattended during this period at all so quite happy with it.

Actually when I think about it, my heat pad is probably about 6 years old now.

Thanks!

I have some of the 'non' Vetbed which is quite thick as it is relatively new, although I still have some which is about 4 years old and still serviceable but has worn much thinner so maybe that would be suitable? Any way thanks for the good advice, much appreciated.

Never ahd a problem using the metal pad under the vet bed.

Hi please could someone put links to type of heat pads, many years ago had a metal one for a litter and found it not warm enough and resorted back to a  heat lamp
thanks

I actually used a heat pad that goes in the microwave, and maintains warmth over a 12 hour period (it also comes in handy to warm my cold feet in bed ;) )

I managed with that fine last year and would probably buy another couple of those rather than use an electric one, as I have never used an electric one and am a bit cautious of leaving things switched on??? Probably just me being over-cautious....

I find the microwave one OK for occasional use IE running to vet with pup or pups,  using in a little box between whelps etc but I just don't find they keep an even temperature.

I am on my second one.  I do love them for the pups though and wouldn't be without one for the emergency trips to vets when whelping or with pups etc. 

hi...can anyone advise as to the Petnap heat pad am I right in thinking they heat (goes/comes through) only when pups are only on them? as mine feels ..well not warm to touch when on!!!!
I stopped using it after feeling the heat not coming through and reverted back to the Old metal one...but now pups are 4 weeks plus I am using the snugglesafe microwave discs that were recommended for the toy breeds...they are fab...kept warm for 12 hours...only trouble is having 3 pups 2 are sitting on it and 1 is not allowed on!!!!

My petnap one is on all the time. It is warm/hot to touch all the time but wouldn't burn the skin.    It doens't feel hot to touch but when youkeep your hand on it for a while it does feel warm but I think think it actually comes on and off.

I've got some petnap heat pads and it did say if I remember right in the instructions that it will not feel warm to the touch but will heat up once some weight is on it.

i use mine sunk into MDF so there is no sharp corners.

> I've got some petnap heat pads and it did say if I remember right in the instructions that it will not feel warm to the touch but will heat up once some weight is on it.
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If they don't heat up until pups are on the area, how do the pups gravitate from a cool spot towards the heat (if there isn't any, heat if you see what I mean) ?

The bedding becomes warm. Definately warm to touch.

They are on all the time and are warm all of the time but only a very gentle heat because they are very low wattage. As a pup lays on the heat pad they insulate the pad, reduce the amount of heat escaping to atmosphere and hence the pads get warmer. They are not 'switched on' by the weight of an animal, but rather they are more noticably warmer. Once the pup is on the pad we tend to find they are very happy to return to it. They are best used with a light covering, ideally a thin fleece. The small petnaps only have one heat source inside them, in the middle. It can take a while for the heat to conduct across the whole plate particularly if the ambient temp in the room is low. Using a thin fleece covering, the heat spreads across the surface of the plate much more quickly and the touch temperature is more even. I hope this helps

> They are best used with a light covering, ideally a thin fleece

In 'thin fleece' do you mean such a 'polar fleece blanket' as oposed to vet bed?

Is vet bet actually too thick? would it cause a problem?
thanks

I use a "hot water bottle cover" over my heat pad, just a nice size for it.

They will continue to work under vetbed but the heat pad will get quick hot as the vetbed limits the amount of heat which normally dissipates to atmosphere. We have tested them using vetbed and have found that the pads work fine and given time the heat will eventually rise up through the vetbed. The risk is that the pups will then get between the vetbed and the pad, which at this time will be rather hot. We find that a thin fleece, or a hot water bottle cover (good idea) works fine. Newdog use our heat pads inside their whelping mats. These mats are vetbed but have a zip up compartment in the back which contains the heat pad. The pad will run hot but it is safely kept away from direct contact with the pups. We have found that this works quite well.