Following on from the other recent docking thread got me thinking...
I don't show and know little about it so wondered how the UK show scene will be affected.

Young dogs from abroad that are docked can't be shown at certain shows in the UK now so will it be mainly UK only entrants in such shows?
Also conversely where some of you may have shown abroad will you now stop as your dogs are not docked, and therefore looked on unfavourably in some countries (the example that springs to mind is boxers with full tails doing poorly in the US showring even if the rest of the dog is otherwise very good)?

Do you think this will have a worldwide impact and possibly alienate UK exhibitors that show traditionally docked breeds?

There has been a ban on docked dogs in Europe for quite some time now!   I know quite a few people do show on the continent, but know of very few who show in the US.

Margot

>Young dogs from abroad that are docked can't be shown at certain shows in the UK now so will it be mainly UK only entrants in such shows?

Docking was banned in most of Europe before our ban came in, so it'll make no difference in that respect, other than the European breeders have had a little more time to work on a more unified tail than British breeders, so their dogs might actually be at an advantage!

As far as the US dogs go many of the breeds previously docked are also cropped over there and these have never been allowed to be shown in the UK.

Also some UK exhibitors were unable to show in some European countries where docked dogs are banned from being shown, and in other countries they can be shown from other countries but they have a ban in their own.

I don't think most European countries have a ban just some.

Will this also make a difference in importing/exporting puppies, esp to the US then as they will presumably want a docked pup?  Also if someone likes a particular line (e.g. likes strong working continental lines) and that breed is docked then rather than buy in a pup that cannot be shown here what would be their alternative?  AI?

Sorry for all the questions I just get thinking sometimes LOL!

I know people who have imported cropped dogs, knowing full well they cannot be shown.  I don't think the Americans will want undocked pups for the showring, but as they allow cropping and cat de-clwing (which means removign the digit that has the claw) over there they probably would not have a problem getting a vet to dock an older pup or adult under anaesthetic.

:-O  cat declawing sounds horrendous but I also personally don't like ear cropping either

Even before the docking ban, any British pup going to the US for show would be ear-cropped when over there (cropping's done at about 12 weeks), so no doubt they'd simply dock its tail at the same time.

Not all of them.  I sent a puppy out to the states (traditionally docked breed, and cropped), it made its title with dropped ears and a long tail!!.  I know it is easy to obtain a title in the states but with natural ears and a long tail......that was some kind of an achievement.

Congratulations!!!  That must have made your day!!
And also brought more hope to those that have kept their dogs natural