Hi Everyone
Just a quick question as i can only give my girl veggies or fruit, is there any veggies that anyone's aware of they shouldn't have, i know with fruits they mustn't have grapes, but i was really wondering about peppers, i have to encourage her to eat her dried food, and like to make it interesting, and as she has lots of allergies its the only food/ treats i can give!!i bought some mixed veg but it has peppers in, so was a bit wary in case they shouldn't be given, as i think they can be hot? sorry don't like them myself so don't know!
any help would be greatly appreciated.
Marie

You've already mentioned grapes.  Onions are poisonous too.  I am unaware of any other fruit and veggies that dogs can't eat.  My dog is on a complete food so doesn't need supplements but she gets fruit and veg as extras anyway.  She gets any of the leftover cooked veg but also raw carrots, broccoli and cauli stalks, apples, pears, bananas and little bits of orange.  My dog also likes salad (except limp lettuce) and I know that leftover salad given to her has included bits of peppers but it doesn't seem to have had any ill effect.  Peppers aren't hot, are you thinking of chillis? I wouldn't give my dog chilli.

thanks for that Cheryl i had no idea onions were poisonous ,ive given her them as i didnt know they were! she loves banana and apple ,and she will eat lettuce, in fact she will eat anything like that, i just didnt know with peppers ,i thought they were hot ive never had them myself, i dont like the smell so put me off tasting them!
thanks for your advice thou, at least ive learnt something new today.
marie

Peppers should be avoided in the diet of artritic dogs (along with other members of the nightshade family like aubergines, tomatoes, potatoes etc) but are otherwise fine to feed. 

On a vet program I was watching once it said to avoid onions and also mushrooms as they can make a dog ill - it didn't explain why but i've avoided them since to be on the safe side.

Onions, garlic - yes they say garlic is poisonous, grapes, celery

Ahem, garlic is NOT poisonous to dogs, it is, like EVERYTHING, toxic in excessl.

Many people such as myself regularly feed raw garlic and there are licensed veterinary products which contain garlic made by firms such as Dorwest, Hilton Herbs and Denes.

Celery is NOT poisonous either, again many licensed veterinary products contain celery.  Google Dorwest.

Avocados can be a problem as they contain persin which is toxic. 

Onions cause a type of fatal anaemia, nobody knows WHAT the toxic element is in grapes or raisins just that they are best avoided.

hi everyone
thanks for all your advice its really appreciated, ive actually learnt alot, its so difficult as shes allergic to meat so veggies are the only answer.now i know what to avoid with them too sothanks.
marie x

You can feed all veg and fruit except grapes, onions and leeks.  And in the case of arthritic dogs as Shanylola advises.

A clove of garlic most days helps protect against worms, fleas and keeps their immune system healthy.

Try mixing a variation of whatever veg is in season with added yoghurt and raw eggs.  It is best to feed raw pulped, or very lightly steamed.

Hi,
Sorry I don't know about feeding a vegitarian diet, but garlic in small quantities is definatly good for dogs.
We feed a complete food, with extras! We have been feeding garlic and fenugreek for many years, it is excellent for the circulation system and the garlic helps to prevent fleas and mites.
Also helps with dog breath :-) :-)

I remember reading an article that said garlic was toxic, and thats why we figure we have the mondays revenge after shows, with all the dogs having diarehea.  And they arent baited to excess, maybe 5 pieces the whole day of liver with garlic, the size of kibbles.  I am going to go look on some veterinary forums to see if I can pull that up.

ETA
http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/garlic_for_dogs.html

Also mentions some other foods, and gives a reason why grapes are toxic.  There is a high choke rate with them, but they can also cause renal failure.

http://www.petalia.com.au/templates/storytemplate_process.cfm?story_no=257#ct-4

Here is the site I promised.  "Onions and garlic contain the toxic ingredient thiosulphate."

Even though Onions are more toxic than garlic, garlic still is toxic.  I know I wouldnt want to put my pet through the symptoms listed, because depending on the size, age, etc, of the dog, it doesnt state how much garlic is needed to be toxic.  Obviously, it would take less garlic to poison a Chihuahua than a mastiff.

Is she OK with some dairy or do you have to avoid that too? Mine love doghurt, otherwise known as organic natural yoghurt around here. Cottage cheese is also a nice kibble topper. I know your girl has special dietary needs so maybe you need to avoid them but couldn't find a post about it.

>liver with garlic

More likely to be the liver I should think? Renowned for causing dire rear

I do think garlic is fine in moderation - not sure if you have the same foods in Canada as the USA but just had a browse through some of the most popular kibbles over there and a lot of them contain garlic (Timberwolf, Innova, Acana, Nutro, etc). A lot of them in the UK contain garlic as well.

Comes down to personal preference I guess

i do give her cheese only very rarely she cant have eggs as very allergic to them , i havent tried cottage cheese! will get some and try, I'm having such trouble trying to get her to take the atopica tablets too, shes spitting them out and at £4 a tablet cant afford to waste one, there huge and shes not allowed food with them, not that i can give her anything like treats to disguise them in.

trying to feed her her meds???  Do you have PIll Pockets over there?  Its a cookie, that has a hole in the middle, and you put the pill in, and shut the cookie up, and give the dogs the meds that way.

The product is actually called Pill Pocket.  Check with your local pet outlet. 

Well I have two methods for pills. One is the open wide, cram it down their throat and follow up immediately with a treat. The other is to wrap it in cream cheese - make sure there's lots left on your fingers to encourage them to keep licking. I find that even hug pills go down with no bother when they're cream cheese candy.

I give our dogs tablets in pieces of hotdog sausages, never fails.
Wendy

I favour the 'stuff-it-down-the throat as far as you can' method. No faffing about - it never fails!

Snap!

hi kory
i cant give her cookies cause shes not allowed its a real pain, ive had a fight again today i tried so hard managed in the end but boy did i have a job!!

hi lori , i tried smothereeing it in cream cheese and she spat it out after she had chewed it and the cheese came off i tried down the throat again and managed it but only after a real struggle and i really dont want to start distressing her  shes getting warey now and runs in her bed and hides her head if only there were some way it takes so many times to get it down her throat she wriggles about so much and ive no one to help here

Is it a capsule or a pill?  My vet suggested (when Cher had to take a capsule type med) to take the Capsule apart and smush it into some canned food. 

I imagine you could mush up a regular pill as well.  Check with your vet to see if that would work.

yes, distressing Lillie would be bad, and we definately dont want her hating the very thing that can make her better.

I too hold the head back and down the throat then give a treat , my youngest is the easiest dog I have ever had to give tablets too I give her the tablet like a treat and she chews it like a sweet even cod liver oil capsules never refused one yet LOL :)

>I too hold the head back and down the throat then give a treat

Same here,this method rarely fails,especially if you coat the tablet in slippery butter which lessens the chances of it getting stuck and helps it slide straight down.

I've always thought that a dog truly allergic to every single type of meat was a myth?? Is his allergy to ALL meats 100% conclusive?

yes thats what the yourk test said well she didnt show a reaction to turkey and lamb, but the vet doesnt want me to give them at the moment as her food intolerence is under control now so i kinda get the feeling they dont want to risk her to start being sick and have the sqidly diddlys, ive called my vet today and kinda pleaded with them im having real probs and theyve said i can put her tab in just a weeny bit of food so she will take it thankgoodness so i hope this will work later fingers crossed.

I would follow up the turkey and lamb option myself.  Surely, it's in the dog's best interest to find a meat that she can safely eat rather than depriving her just because a vet thinks it might make her ill.  Isn't there a test that will show conclusively if the turkey and/or lamb will be safe or not. 

I find bananas are brilliant for getting pills down. You can mold the banana around the pill and it just slides down.

>I would follow up the turkey and lamb option myself.  Surely, it's in the dog's best interest to find a meat that she can safely eat rather than depriving her just because a vet thinks it might make her ill.

I so much agree!!
She will never be 100% healthy without meat in her diet.It may keep her allergies under control,but will no doubt cause more serious problems elsewhere.
The amino acids etc etc etc found in meat just cant be replicated with other foods

> favour the 'stuff-it-down-the throat as far as you can' method. No faffing about - it never fails!

Yep same her just keep stroking the throat until they swallow a few times. 

My girls are so food orientated I just say 'open wide' and they do, pill is gone in seconds.  Vet was absolutely astonished when big 'un had to have some pain killers - lol!