I had an unsigned email from a person saying I bet your not so willing to forgive a dog fight now,, and how did I feel about dog fights now since I was so quick to say I would forgive a dog fighting on the other thread.
Well I have always said I can forgive dogs fighting with each other .
I have now been put in the position where I had to put my money where my mouth was and prove to myself I was not a hypocrite .
I did tell you all about my sweet little berry been attacked and if I had wanted to I could have caused serious problems to the owner of the dog that attacked her .
It was an accident on the part of the boy that owned it. A slip he will never make again.
I was in devastation at the state of Berry and I did feel angry and murderous towards the bitch that did it .I am only human.
I also had to stop myself from losing my head , but I did manage it . I am glad now as Berry is ok , the bitch will not be showed again on the boys own decision and he will not breed from her either. Dont forget he suffered agony over Berry as well and literally vomited with upset over it.
I could have insisted he be banned from showing sued him etc. all that and ended up with enimies , but I allowed the boy to arrive at the conclusion he had a dog with bad temperament and what could happen if he carries on with the line .
I am more happy with that result as a lot has been gained by working things out without killing each other.
I am amazed at the amount of people that wanted me to go gunning for the owner.
Iam further amazed at the amount of people that will try to get a death sentence for a dog overturned that had bitten children and people, and will not consider understanding dogs fight other dogs if allowed . I say it again it is horrific to see a fight , but it is dogs and those things happen .
If it was not the norm at one stage to see loose dogs killing each other , then where did the idea of fighting dogs arise in the first place . it arose because of the fact dogs will fight and some saw a way of coining on it.
If that dog that attacked Berry was after biting a child then I would be the first to say it is a bad dog and a bad dog should be P.T.S . that is how I see it and nothing will change my mind about that .
I do not have dogs here that fight so far , but if I did I would simply separate them If I had not the place to separate them I would look for a home for one of them and hope it would work out with a home that had no other dog .
I had one that needed muzzling on walks[ G,S ]but he was not a people biter .
So if the dog is people friendly and you make sure the fighter never has the opportunity to do it again , they should be allowed another chance .
I have to say this though in all honesty . I saw what a bully could do and I dread to think what it could do to a child [it is not usual for a bully to dislike people] and that is why it is so important to breed for temperament. and keep them out of the wrong hands.
To the person that felt they were been smart by emailing me .
I have to say your not smart at all just vicious and I feel sorry for you.
I hope you never find yourself needing a friend , because I feel with that attitude you wont have many .
I am lucky to have so many friends perhaps it is because I appreciate them . Mari

What happened to Berry was an very unfortunate incident which was handled sympathetically and sensibly by all concerned. No one likes to see dogs fighting or a dog being attacked by another dog but if it does happen, then most of us will be aware of the potential of it happening again, learn from it and will take steps to ensure that it doesn't.

Mari,

I've been meaning to ask what happened to the Bull Mastiff but hadn't wanted to say anything for fear of upsetting you - it would appear that someone wasn't so concerned about you or your feelings.

I feel so sorry for the boy that owned the dog and can only imagine his horror. No-one likes to think of their dog being a biter. I remember when Holly snapped at the little girl - I was sickened and didn't know what to do.

Obviously I wasn't there but I do feel that the Bull Mastiffs owner has made a brave decision. I only hope that his faith in his dog is proven and that it was a one off incident.

I hope that you're all able to put this behind you and move on and that Berry isn't too affected in the future.

Love to you all,

Fiona (and a rather grumpy Holly who doesn't like looking like an idiot!!)
x x x

PS - If you've still got the email and you go into your inbox you might be able to trace the writer. If you 'right' click on the senders name and then select either options or properties (depending on whether you use Outlook or Outlook express) you should be able to see the email address it came from. Some people are really nasty on email, I bet they wouldn't be so rude as to say that to your face.

mari you have spoken a lot of sense in this email and I can only think this person
was joking with you. And I had first hand experience of male bully which hated other dogs
but kept under control he still had a long and happy life with us .but i could still kick the idiot
that let his dog attack my bully three times for the fun of it. Cheer up PAT XX

Mari

I was thinking of you today. I read your post about Berry on another board a couple of days ago and was wondering today how she AND you were doing. I am embarrassed that someone on one of the boards would email you like that. I think you have had an amazing attitude toward the situation and the person and dog involved ESPECIALLY at this hard time.

And what a remarkable decision that boy made - most likely BECAUSE of how you handled it and DIDN'T push him.

All my best to Berry and to you. May you both make a quick recovery.

Wendy

Firstly I have to say how apalling that someone can be so idiotic to email you anonymously.

What happened to Berry was an "accident" and it sounds to me as if the owner of the other dog has taken a very responsible attitude in preventing an accident happening again involving his dog. It must have been awful for him to see his dog behave in this way. As a novice I can quite accept that dog fights can happen and that they are completely seperate from seemingly unprovoked attacks on humans, and that dogs can be kept safe from other dogs, and putting the dog to sleep should not be a knee jerk reaction.

Good for you Mari for being bigger than some small minded people.
Anita

This is dreadful :(

An anonymous email is a cowardly thing to have to receive , and probably the last thing you need at the moment.

Well done for rising above it

Melody

Mari, I agree with all you say and I would just like to offer my support. I had anon e mails, they are from cowardly people who dont have the guts to stand behind what they say. Ignore it and give your dogs a cuddle from me!

Lynn

Welcome to the world of nasty anonomous e-mails Mari, I 've had a few in my time, I just feel that if someone can't be bothered to put a name and hide their address then they aren't worth worrying about. But after all you have been through recently it really takes a nasty person to do something like that.
As an owner of a dog aggressive GSD I can only say that I would never consider re-homing him (hopefully I'll never have to). I have always offered to pay vet bills in the past and now have him under control but I would never pass that responsibilty to someone else even though he is a lot better then he used to be. Yes he lives in harmony with 2 other dogs, my lot have had to learn that fighting amongst themselves is not permitted, I don't have the room or the time to keep them seperate, he is fine with dogs that visit, it's only when we are out and a strange dog comes up to him that he have a problem, but I keep him close to me and make sure that I am always between him and the other dog. Ingrid

Anonymous mail is always horrid to receive, I know quite a few of us on here have had them :(.

I don't know the story, Mari, but it sounds as if you and all concerned acted in a very acceptable/sensible manner.

Best wishes
Lindsay,

Hi Mari, Boy are there some sick people out there!!! Im sorry you had the additional stress of a nasty e mail on top of everything else. I congratulate you on making a forgiving desicion about the bull mastiff. It must have been very hard for you, as Berry is only a baby. Obviously the owner of the bullie felt terrible too, what a shock for everyone involved. For whats its worth (:)) you have my, and many others peoples backing 100% on your desicion, and I know you are strong enough to rise WAY above that stupid e mail. Hope all concerened are feeling better and are on the mend now, love philxxx

I have to say that anonimous emails are not worth bothering about but i know that all the same, they can hurt. These people are sick! As Lindsay says, quite a few of us have received them over the course of time and really it is a cowardly thing to do.

I feel so sorry for you Marie but I also feel sorry for the owner of the Bull Mastive. From having a lovely dog which they thought they could trust they now have a dog which they will always wonder about and which they know they can never relax with when out!

Give Berry a nice big hug from me :)

Best wishes, John

Mari, I'm sorry to hear you have received a nasty, anonymous e-mail concerning this situation. Clearly whomever sent it knows little about you and whilst you did not require to explain it to anyone hopefully they will realise what a sensible person you are in all this. All the best.
Bec

Hi all I am not at all worried re this person .
I made the only decision I could make at the time. I am not answerable to anyone.
I feel the reason the person did not post publically was yes cowardly but also did not want to appear stupid.
I am always willing to stand by what I say and also admit if Im wrong :(. I am a better person then he/she so Im not losing sleep over them like you said John not worth it :)
. I have more important things on my mind . I have no intentions of letting an anon take space in my brain lol:D heads full to capacity .
I am concentrating on getting my girl ready for the ring in august and hoping she lives up to her kennel name . A first in her class would be a good start. in that kind of competition so fingers crossed. for me and Dizzy.
Sam I read your post to late I had deleted and blocked , but I am sure there will be no more as the person reading will know I can find out now.
Like I said not smart just vicious.
Nastiness is another computer virus that is hard to delete or quarantine , but my Dad
used to say leave that sort to God so I will . Mari

Mari
open the anonymous e-mail, then hold down the ctrl key and press F3. A box will appear giving you, amongst other information, the details of who sent you the email!
Sam

well marie--as i said not long ago, the board is still attracting idiots-and very obviously cowardly ones at that-poor souls must have such tiny minds
as ive written, berrys dam, poppy also got attacked at a championship show, badly enough that she needed to be stitched up on the showground, she too was stood there minding her own bussiness,
there where reasons that the bitch that attacked was so wound up, which i took onboard, also health matters of her owner, therefore i let it go too-however had it been an attack on a person/child i wouldnt of let it go at all!!
so to the snivelling coward !! i too agree with marie---tell me ANNONYMOUSLY IF YOU LIKE!!! has your dog bitten someone perhaps????

Mari if you can find out who sent that e mail to you, put their name on the board. People like that need to be shamed. I am sorry you had to recieve that after the shock you had with the dogs. I am shocked that there are people like that amongst all the nice people here on this board.

youd all get a shock if you read the one val got the other day

Dizzy
What really scares me about all this kind of rubbish is how some people appear to be able to send emails as if from someone else (and post on certain boards as if they are other people). I was guilty of slating someone on another board when they posted a really nasty message to Sara and it turned out that it wasn't the person whose name appeared on the post !

It worries me sick that someone could post as me and people would believe it !!!! Believe you me, I have always had trouble using computers anyway so I don't understand how they can do this :( (Ironic really as I was an IT buyer although it was NOT computers per se, although I do know that I can build a computer far better than I can use one :p

Mari, I'm not going to repeat what everyone's already said, just send you much love and keep your chin up :)

Beth

Marie
You know (most importantly) that you did the right thing and of course you wouldnt be bothered by such a coward. I would like them named and shamed though so we could all avoid them but as my nan said what goes around comes around or is it what comes around goes around. Anyway you know what I mean :).
Best wishes and I cant wait for August cos you have a winner - two winners really you and Berry
Gina xxx

Hi Mari, hope the following will make you smile again (if Leigh decides it can stay!!) I chat most nights in a dog/pet based chat room. If anyone comes in with a pet problem we try and help if we can. One evening recently, a weirdo came in and asked for help with his one eyed albino snake!!!! He said he thought it was dead and what could he do? One of the regular ladies (bless her) didnt realise what he was talking about, and kindly tried to help!!! She suggested shaking it, poking it, was it stiff, and was there any sign of it hissing and/or spitting!!!!!!!!! I wont go into all the gory details here, just to say she hasnt been allowed to forget it, and we still chuckle about this guys one eyed albino snake :)
As regards your nasty e mail, what a boring and sad life they must have when they can find nothing more constructive to do!! When I was running the dog show, for the search and rescue dogs working for the Sept 11th disaster, I was bombarded with nasty e mails. The first one or two upset me, but after that I got wise and just deleted them without reading the contents. Just think to yourself how inferior these type of people are, and remember all the friends you have on this board who care about you. Love phil xxx

ROFLOL @ PHILLIPA :d
I LOVE IT . :d Mari

This happened to me, it has stopped (I hope) since I got a Firewall!

Hey Dizzy you should have seen the mail I got today from someone called saraxxx (never heard of her) but made me sit up I can tell you. Wish I had sent it to Marie cos she would have laughed too but I deleted it. :D
Did anyone else get it it was about men's bits!
Gina :o

thanfully not :rolleyes: !!! theyre not the prettiest of things are they. always felt as if they where an after thought-

Close your ears John. Dizzy's talking ladies talk!!

LOL @ Dizzy.

Karen

I totally agree Dizzy :D :D
Gina

LOL @ Dizzy - it's a kind of I have this bit left over what should I do with it:D
Anita

Anita Iam sure they know what to do with it lol:D

Careful you lot. I'll get an inferiority complex, and I know I’m not! :D

They remind me of dinosaurs
the ones with the plumes round the neck :-) :-) :-)
sorry to lower the tone but i could not resist

dinasours!!! is that a brag--or do you mean its a relic!!!!!---im reminded of sausage rolls BEFORE theyre cooked,

Good god I have forgot what they are really for since i split up with the other not so half :-)
Big nosed men dont have big bits :-)
God I cant beleive i said that :-0
But they are like dinosaurs
they have a plume half way down the neck
right thats it never again will I be allowed to leave messages on this board.

roflol @ Carolyn :D

infact roflol at ALL of you :D :D :D

Just looking at other half to see if his nose is big but it is not but he has big ears.

Karen

and his best friend is Noddy ;)

carolyne---as youve forgotten what theyre for ill remind you-----going to the toilet whist standing-----and managing to miss the great big bowl infront of them- :rolleyes:

Nope I've decided I'm not going to say it.........:D
Anita

me neither:D

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: -----oh i see noDDy, i thought id read wrong there?

There are tears streaming down my face now! Will you lot behave! :D :D
LynnT

Im being very good lynn :D :D.........for a change lol Mari

Oh gawd, my husband has quite a big nose ... better not show him this thread :D Mind you he does look like Martin Shaw so I will forgive him. So glad A&E is on the TV again :D Sort of place for your anonymous e-mailer Marie and even though I dont their sex they definitely dont have any "bits" do they LOL :D

Gina x

Mari,

I think you did everything right. Even in your first post after the incident you did not display over reactive behaviour which we all may have done in you situation.

I laugh at the people who send these mails and think they can't be traced.

"Hello" everthing you do on a PC can be traced and I mean everything......

If the poster of the mail reads this thread I hope you share some anxiety from knowing you can or will be traced and also I hope it is a lesson for you. It is no worse than giving crank telephone calls

FOR ALL THE REST. I have told I think Val before you can change your e-mail options to show all the details of the sender. The server it came from and everything.

IF YOU DO RECIEVE MAIL LIKE THE ABOVE YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SERVER OR HOST FOR EXAMPLE YAHOO AND THEN FORWARD THE MAIL AGAIN FOR EXAMPLE TO ABUSE@YAHOO.COM
THEY WILL TAKE IT FROM THERE. They do deal with it as it is their responsibility.

Hope everyone has a nice weekend

Pam

Berry is wonderful today . did a bit of stacking work and found she was very interested in it this morning . She was back at vet tuesday and her mouth is lovley and clean , no infection and all going well , she will have the stitches in her face out [two] next tuesday ,and the mouth ones are disolving ones so no trauma for her . The vet said she is a tough sharpei ,with no heart probs :) and will take it in her stride.
I got two dozen roses from the owners of the bully Shane and Joanne .with a little personel note it was very nice . This morning I got a lovely Jack wolf blanket with the paw marks on it from them to Litte Braveheart.
she is quiet fond of it already :) . They really are a smashing couple . I wish them well . They have a new puppy from a bitch I bred and they will be concentrating on her from october when she is six months.

Re the anon email If I had known in time it could be traced. I would have done it and shown up he/her for the vicious person they were but maybe its better not knowing .
Well im not giving it any more thought I am just grateful I have my little darling . lol Mari

Mari, that is excellent. My heart goes out to both you and the dogs owners can you imagine how they feel.

At least it was handled well.

Pam

What lovely people Mari, and what an antidote for the rat who sent the Email :)

Debbie,
I hate to say that's not a good idea to put the individual's name up on the board. Admin will see it as airing nasty irrevelant personal business on the boards. The rude emailer will get off scot free and the board poster gets chastised. :(


edit to reply to Leigh. Not dealing with libel concerns, but Solomaic or mom types of fairness. Both should get into trouble, not just one party. By only selecting one side of the matter to deal with, Admin is therefore taking sides.

Libel is Libel Sara :-)