i know this has been mentioned over and over but this made my blood boil- yorkie cross dacshie= dorkie! are these people just 'dorks' or is it me??

It is getting very silly now , i saw yesterday a St Oodle ( St Bernard x Poodle ) for £800 all puppies sold bar one.

Peanuts

sorry but just seen another bostondoodle £1200!!! people are bonkers i hope they dont sell and get stuck with them!

Have heard of Bernybergers (Bernese Leonberger crosses) And they are just that CROSSES Used to be called Mongrels in my youth, why oh why do people pay the earth for a crossbreed? I have nothing against them but I suspect that 99% of MONGRELS are accidental or ignorant accidents and little or no thought goes into the homing of them. Sorry to all those of you who have and love your mongrels I think you do a great job mopping up the foolishness of other peoples stupidity. The dog pounds would be so much emptier if there was some way of restricting the flow of mongrels bred, or should that read produced. There really is no need these days for bitches to have unwanted unplanned litters.
Off my soap box now!

lol, oops. reading this at work and just had a big rant about puppy farming, think i've scared my colleagues :rolleyes:...well someone said a st oodle sounded cute, maybe we should all rant more, might stop it happening

why oh why do people pay the earth for a crossbreed?
because people want something more unique..more bespoke, designed for their own specific taste. Something that the know exactly what it is what the breeding behind it is and no one else they bump into will have. They probably find the concept rather fun.

I think with a cross breed or mongrel the actual dogs behind the breeding are unknown..unknown breeding, unknown health etc. People can guess what they might have in them but they can't know for sure. Okay in a cross they know who mummy is but there is something about knowing who the daddy is and the pups being planed.  They are crossbreeds with a touch of class .

I think pups are so expensive maye people think if they are going to fork out so much they want whatever  type of dog they want.

On a lighter note some more 'designer ' croosbreeds ;) :D

Pointer + Setter = Poinsetter, a traditional Christmas pet
Great Pyrenees + Dachshund = Pyradachs, a puzzling breed
Pekingnese + Lhasa Apso = Peekasso, an abstract dog
Irsh Water Spaniel + English Springer Spaniel = Irish Springer, a dog fresh and clean as a whistle
Newfoundland + Basset Hound = Newfound Asset Hound, a dog for financial advisors
Terrier + Bulldog = Terribull, a dog prone to awful mistakes
Malamut + Pointer = Moot Point, owned by... oh, well, it doesn't matter anyway
Deerhound + Terrier = Derriere, a dog that's true to the end
Collie + Malamute = Commute, a dog that travels to work
Bull Terrier + Shitzu = Bullshitz, a gregarious but unreliable breed

Lucy
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lol, particularly like the bullshitz

>I think pups are so expensive maye people think if they are going to fork out so much they want whatever  type of dog they want.

But that's the point, surely? With a cross - especially a first cross - you don't know what you're going to get. Every single pup of the litter is likely to be different to the rest. It's a huge gamble.

Saw today in one of the local papers,  Cairnoodles £800 !!!!!!!  £800 for a mongrel!!  the claim is as usual, they don't moult - how would they know?? 

It's very true - A fool and his money are soon parted :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Forgot to say,  My old afghan /terrier cross - ACCIDENT!   was like a mini Afghan - finely built, pin bones prominent, and full Afghan coat.  He was about 17 inches high and black with the typical Afghan pale bits on legs and paws, his 3 brothers were short coated, fine boned, tan coloured and HUGE, more afghan sized   They were all the same size as pups :rolleyes:  

Apart from the coat and shape, his temperament was also very Afghan, which took some getting used to, especially when trying to train him ;)

Tho he was free to a good home, he was the most expensive dog I've ever owned, I think we paid for the vets Porsche :(

the claim is as usual, they don't moult - how would they know?? 
do people have any rights to prosecute breeders through misrepresenting their err...as this is about sale of 'goods' for money let's call it a 'product'  when it comes to buying a pup?  Or is it different with animals? Are 'consumers' protected in any way if they are mislead?

people have different tastes.  Some people like to wait to see what their dog will look like when it grows up. But the risk of anything too problematic is very small because they are crossing two breeds they love.

People also believe it dilutes health risks from in-breeding. Many people do not like the idea of pure breeds because they believe they are too much at risk from inherited health problems.

With the poodle crosses I think a lot is to do with the look of the dog.They like the look of the poodle crosses. End of the day cross a breed of dog with a poodle and you do get an assortment of very  interesting and attractive looking dogs. And some people want this.

>Many people do not like the idea of pure breeds because they believe they are too much at risk from inherited health problems.

Yes, but we know that's an old wives' tale, don't we? Crossbreeds are at just as much risk of inherited conditions.

>They like the look of the poodle crosses.

They like the look of some of the poodle crosses. But each puppy in the litter will be different - there's no guarantee it'll grow to have 'the look' they like best. And the character traits of the parent breeds need to be compatible as well, or you can get a disaster.

Not all people are the same..they just all have different tastes. Some people like the idea of not knowing outcomes. Of creating something unique or being part of that process through their choice of a pup.

I'm not saying it is right just that this is how people are.

And what people believe to be true. Many people believe pedigree dogs have more health problems than mongrels. Even when I wanted to insure my dogs with Pet plan two years ago they charged twice for pure breeds because of the added health risks through in breed breeding.

These crosses are so well known and so accepted in society as lovely dogs. Take the Aussie...more people have heard what a Labradoodle is than an Aussie...even after Chance winning at Crufts people still have no idea what an Aussie is or even that they exist.   Most people do know Labradoodles and do think they are cool and trendy dogs to own. ( I guess on the positive side it should help with rescues because they give dogs fun sounding names, so if it raises the status of cross breeds and mongrels that's a good side effect. )

You get different types of dog owners. Some dump their pups. Others think of their dog as priceless. What they pay for the puppy they want means nothing to them because even £1000+ is a small price compared with the ongoing costs, it is a major  responsibility, meeting the needs of the dog no matter what. fitting around work commitments so dog walkers  etc.  So they go for the type of dog they want. It might be a rescue, or a pedigree, a Toy Poodle or a Great Dane. ..or a designer cross breed. People are very different in taste when it comes to dogs.

anyways I will have to go cuddle me a few Poodle/lab  cross  cos the retriever breeds are the ones I am the most allergic to, see if the allergy thing works. lol.

It is insulting to poodles that people want a dog that has the qualities of a poodle but don't like the look of poodles  so prefer to fork out a small fortune for a pup who might have a coat that has none of the benefits of the Poodle.   If people want a Poodle for health reasons they should get a Poodle. Now those people I do think are crazy especially of it is for a home with a kid who has allergies. 

But on the whole providing breeder of cross breeds explain all this clearly so peope know ecxactly  what they are getting is not a breed but a cross etc then  I've no problem with it.   All breeders shgould explain as much as possible to make sure dogs do not end up in the wrong homes. End of the day it is what happens to the dogs that matters not what people pay for them. 

i'm sorry but how did the thing about crosses being healthier start? do they not have all the potential inherited problems of each of the parents without the appropriate health checks? one of the things i like about a breed (well likes probably the wrong word) is that you know pretty much what your getting, temprement (appart from personal differeces), attitude, and any potential health problems

Yes and hopefully a better chance of avoiding these health issues as with responsible breeding and testing where available the chances of getting the problem are reduced.

My breed is tested for the eye disease PRA.  We do not have a DNA test but the possibilities are much more realistic to get DNA tests now.  Our problem that there are so few affected animals and obligate carriers (parents and offspring of affected animals) that it may be many years before we have enough DNA samples to do the required research. 

Almost a victim of our own success, the chances of getting one affected by PRA is so small because for years breeders have eye tested to wed out affected stock and then be very careful when carriers have been identified.