notice a recent trend  of judges   who have a numerically low entry not turning up to judge. Do they get reported to KC? if so does it  carry a fine?

Yes, if the judge simply fails to turn up to fulfill a contracted judging appointment the KC will be advised and will then decide whether to fine the judge.

however, if the judge's reason for not attending was genuine then they will probably not be fined.

Kate

seems to be a lot of  "cars  breaking down " for judges  with very small entries of late.  hard to prove otherwise i suppose.

Never had it happen to me but I don't doubt it does. Will not do a judge any good as word will soon get around and the breed clubs will not smile upon those with dodge cars. Once may be but after that they will be in problems with the breed clubs and the KC.

You would have to report the change of judge to the KC when you send the show returns and they will take note, I know the cost of petrol is high but once you have accepted the appointment you are obliged to fulfill it.  

something like that would be hard to prove - though surely if there was a need to prove it then most people would be able to say show the phone call log on their mobile to the AA?  A garage receipt?

I haven't noticed anything recently that there is an increase of judges not turning up for appointments when they only have a small entry - but then again i have a breed that only ever gets a small entry most of the time - if it's for open shows most judges would turn up as the chances to judge are few and far between.

I am sure the KC will log persistant offenders who fail to turn up to judging appointments, and if reported to the breed clubs i am sure some action would be taken to remove them from judging lists.

i know personally of someone  who had no intention of turning up for an appointment  as they only had 3 dogs entered

That makes me cross, it does not matter if you have 3 or 33 they have given you the complement of entering under you and you should dam well keep your side of the bargain.

I have not heard of it happening, but I am sure it must do sometimes. When I have been asked to judge I have always turned up no matter how small the entry, as I think the exhibitors have paid to enter, which is a compliment to the judge to say that they think the judge is worth entering under, therefore I owe them the courtesy to turn up.

The worst thing though must be to travel a long way and find the entry absent.

Too true Barbara, last year I judge 3 1/2 to 4 hours away, as I was not to well I booked an hotel the night before the show, only 2 present, still did pick up an odd Finnish Spitz as the judge had been told not to come.

Opps! don't mean the Finky was odd, meant it was on it's own.

When I took over as a secretary of an all breeds Open Show Club a judge the club had a contract with phoned three days before show to inform me they were suffering in pain so unable to judge-therefore one can not dispute and a replacment judge has to be found-that is the job of the secretary to sort out.

However on the day of our club's show they went BIS at a Champ Show way up North.

If people continue not to turn up for appointments it will do them no favours at all-the club does not suffer-it is the exhibitors that have entered,maybe because they like the way the judge judges dogs-and it is those people that judges should think about.

I have travelled many miles to judge at open shows and have maybe two dogs turn up-that is how the climate is at the moment in the dog world.

Without our exhibitors our club would fall flat on it's face-I am a secretary beacuse I enjoy my job and I want the people that have paid with their hard earned cash to enjoy the day.

Is the word "loyalty" not in the Dictionary any more ?

> However on the day of our club's show they went BIS at a Champ Show way up North.

Was it their dog which could have been handled by someone for them or was it actually them?  If they got their pic in paper you would have evidence and the KC would fine them.

They could have of course had a spectacular recovery the night before, but surely they should have rang you to see if they should still come and judge ;)

If it is reported to the KC they will ask for an explanation and if it is given as a health reason then a doctors letter will be requested. If that is not forthcoming and an explanation of who was handling the judges dog then I think the judge will have been fined anything it seems from £50 to £200. Have to say it seems that exhibitors are jumped on a lot harder than are judges, have a bit of a shout at a show official and you can find yourself band for 5 years, not being able to have anything to do with showing and not able to register any pups you breed, break your contract and you get fined £50 - IMO both offences bring the dog world into disrepute so why the difference?

It was their dog handled by the contracted judge-on front cover of a Dog Newspaper.

No phone call to mention a recovery.

Our club dealt with the matter according to KC Rules & Regs.

> Is the word "loyalty" not in the Dictionary any more

or even "respect" or "obligation" or "considerate"- if you say you'll be somewhere you should be there, it;s disrespectful to the entrants to let them down like that and is downright inconsiderate to the organisers and entrants. i'd have been seething.

> It was their dog handled by the contracted judge-on front cover of a Dog Newspaper.
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> No phone call to mention a recovery.
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> Our club dealt with the matter according to KC Rules & Regs.

Good, that sort of behaviour makes me very angry, it's bl@@dy insult to the exhibitors and enough to make the organisers suicidal.

The guy who was due to judge the junior handling for our local CS show didnt turn up last year as he claimed he was working!  Imagine how annoyed we were when we realised he had been given the same appointment again this year.

Ok if he is a medical worker or works for the emergency services but if you work in any other job you make sure you are booked off.

No he isnt he is a self employed kennel owner!  The Secretary of our clubs daughter works for him and his partner.  We wanted her to report it last year to the KC but she wouldnt.  It is very frustrating as there are lots of people who would love to judge.

That makes it difficult as her daughters welfare has to be considered I suppose. It is wrong but understandable.