Do any wins at open shows qualify a person for crufts ?

Hi,
Think but don't quote me -
Only at an open show, best in show (BIS), reserve best in show (RBIS) and best puppy (BPIS) in show qualify for Crufts.
Hope someone comes along and confirms this. :-)

I think that's only at Premier Open shows, not ordinary ones, but could be wrong.

The qualifications for Crufts 2008 at Open shows were -

(3)  Premier Open Show

For dogs that have been declared Best of Breed provided there were more than three breed classes (more than five classes for Stud Book Band E breeds) scheduled for the breed.

(4)  If it has won Best in Show, Reserve Best in Show or Best Puppy in Show at a General or Group Open Show held between 8 January 2007 and 7 January 2008.

I would imagine Crfts 2009 will have those same qualifications (maybe the dates will change though)

Debs

Thanks Debs
That makes it clear now

I entered a twin group open show and won best puppy in show , judged on the group system .
I'll phone tomorrow to check .

Twin Group? I don't know what you mean by the term twin group.

There are Group Open Shows and Sub-Group Open Shows. They may or may not be judged on the group system, but twin group, I'm puzzled.

Dawn R.

would twin group be like the Terrier and Gundog open show ? (I think there is usually one up in the midlands)

Twin group shows, although I've not heard the expression, is very common in Working & Pastoral breeds -I'd imagine as they all used to be one group but now are two.

You can also have sub group shows, well in Belgian Shepherds you can anyway (imagine it might be true of say Poodles as well but really have no idea) -as there are 4 varieties of the breed some shows are referred to as sub group shows rather than breed shows.

Working and Pastoral breeds still have their shows together as the societies existed prior to the group being split.

Yes It was the Birmingham Gundog and Terrier twin group open show . Ive been given the rules for last year but not sure if I qualify for crufts under this years rules yet .

Ahh I see. :)

We don't have any twin group shows round near me, but it makes perfect sense now. Thanks all.

Dawn R.

I am happy to say that the BPIS does qualify us for Crufts next year .

Great, bet your pleased

Ah well done SALLYD, didn't stay until the end, wish I'd of met you as I was there for most of the day with my Spanish!

It a shame , If I knew what people looked like it would help ! .
I am attending Windsor premier tomorrow and United Spaniel on Sunday , if you are there lets intruduce ourselves .

i also think you are right jeangenie

only at premier shows do you get a crufts qulifrer.