I have been trying to get information on international Championships.  My bitch has a Canadian Championship, and we are currently working on getting American Championship.   Usually show exibitors go to Mexico to get the international ch, but there my breed looks totally different from Canadian and American lines.

My question is this:
I have a breed that in Canada has her tail, declaws and ears cropped.  Since she is internationally born, in a country that allows these procedures to be done, is she able to be shown in the UK?   I have read in some websites that at some shows it is allowed, but in others it isnt.  Also, are you allowed in the UK to own a dog with these things done (as I would probably have to move to the UK, as travelling back and forth would just be too much). 

Thanks!

No, the fact that her ears are cropped means she can't be shown in the UK at all.

If she is cropped she will not be able to be shown in the UK.  The UK does not belong to the FCI so even if she could be shown here the wins would not count.  I don't understand why your bitch would be cropped as Min Pins have naturally erect ears? 

Docked dogs can be shown, but those legally docked after 6th April 2007 can only be shown at shows that do not charge the public and entrance charge.

Many European countries do not now allow cropped and docked dogs to be shown.  In some it is a total ban and in others based on age. Some still allow both practises.

You will need to contact the individual Kennel clubs.

>>If she is cropped she will not be able to be shown in the UK.  The UK does not belong to the FCI so even if she could be shown here the wins would not count.  I don't understand why your bitch would be cropped as Min Pins have naturally erect ears?  <<

To answer your question, as to why my pin is cropped, the standard says "The ears must stand errect or be cropped".  Uncropped dogs in Canada, do very poorly in the show ring.  She does have a strong enough ear to have left her natural, but if I did that, I would be spending money on showing for basically nothing.  I have only ever heard of one Min Pin with natural ears getting a Championship in Canada/USA.  So to have a show dog, I cropped her. 

Many breeds have the choice in Canada to stay natural, but it is very rarely seen.  The Dobe, the Dane, the Griffon (Brussels) etc, all have in their standards that they can be shown naturally, but again, it is very hard, if not impossible to get a CH on an uncropped dog, where the norm is to have them cropped.  Sad really, as I personally think, especially with the Min Pins, that the ears havent been focused on, and cropping is an easy way to hide bad ears. 

Yes but those breeds ears left are natural are drop eared, but Min pins have naturally erect ears, so why would they need to be cropped?????

They dont need to be, is what I am saying.  There is no need to crop a Min Pin, IF they have good ears.  But in Canada, the ears have been neglected, and you arent seeing ones that are left natural (mostly pets) that have erect ears.  Also, it is not the norm here, as most Pins are cropped, and it is very very hard to earn a CH on a natural dog.
Its crazy, I know, but Pins left natural do not do well over here at all.  Why I pointed out the other breeds (even though the droop ears when left natural) is because they also wont do well in the ring, even though the standards say that they can be shown natural.  Thats all.  

Are you saying that Canadian Min Pins if left with natural ears will nto ahve erect ears?  All the oens I ahve seen in the UK have neat erect ears.

Here is a UK site: http://www.miniaturepinscherclub.co.uk/

Brainless I'd assume the OP means it is obvious by the LOOK of the ears if the are cropped or naturally erect and the cropped look is preferred. I know my friend's cropped Dobie looks anything but natural, there is a very man made point to the ears.

Just wouldn't think there would be enough to crop from from the Min pins I know.  the Min Pin of the year for 2005 on the club site was bred by people I know through mutual friends (have even travelled to shows with them).

Will try to google a canandian pic.  Ooh little skinny whippy horns, yuk.  Makes the ears look weak.

I don't know the countries but I found these: cropped
naturally erect ears

The show pics I found showed them cropped tall and thin, and the natural ears I have seen in the UK have been smaller and neater than those, not to mention the colour much better.

When the pins are cropped, we take about 1/3 of the ear off.  So the ears are still pretty long, just the tips and part of the bell is removed basically.  I have seen pics of UK dogs, and although to me it seems a little off, I can see how you in the UK would think a cropped dog looks off. 
I cant even think of a natural ear that would look like a cropped min pin ear, because basically all the dogs running through my head with the same ears would have been cropped as well. 
You wouldnt believe how many dogs are cropped over here.  About half the working group, some herding, some toy breeds, and a couple terriers. 

I think the uncropped look gives a gentler look to the dog, and it can be very inviting.  I just would love to see what it would be like to not crop, and have the breeders here focus on parts of breeds that have unfortunately been neglected by most - but not all - as I have seen only 2 pins with natural ears - one show one pet - and it did catch my eyes.  But mainly because it was different.

It seems one of the strangest thing to me and seems so unreasonable to do it.  ( sadly why we have so many people jumping up and down about cropping and such like)

JMHO :-)

Lovely little dogs though. :-)

This is a really good website to show what a cropped min pin looks like.  Sorry, but the above picture for a cropped min pin was horrid, a horrible crop done.

http://www.cdn-miniaturepinscherclub.com/Champions.htm

not all min pins have erect ears, in Canada if left natural.  They tend to flop like the dobe or the dane.  Some will have one up one down.  Its sad really, since it is a strong point in the breed.  Breeders have been focusing on a dainty dog, with great hackney movement, and this pretty much wreaked the min pins ears, so they arent what they are supposed to be now.  Although, even rare, you may see a Canadian/American Min Pin with natural erect ears.

The dogs seem finer than they are here too.

JG is right, you cannot show any dog with cropped ears. You can however OWN one that was imported -my friend has an American bred Dobermann with cropped ears.

and you can breed from it here too....just not show it.:rolleyes:

I have judged a 'drop' eared Min Pin here in the UK. Havent seen many but it does happen. Sadly I understand what you are saying about 'natural' ears in US and Canada. I know that Great Danes iwth natural ears do not do so well, and they will buy one from the UK then crop it when it gets to teh States. Think cropped dogs cannot be shown in many European Countries now.

I am thinking a double championship will be fine, as there is no point going to Mexico to get a championship since the breed looks a lot different there then the states and Canada.  Also, if I am unable to show in the UK since my dog is cropped, then it would be a waste to come to show since I wouldnt be able to even exibit.  May visit the UK though.......

Come for Crufts or a Min Pin club shamp show.