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Topic Dog Boards / Showing / Min Pin Acting funny
- By Crespin Date 06.11.07 00:21 UTC
Ok, I got a wonderful put together dog.  I would say her main fault is her teeth.

First she didnt like the table, as she is shown on one in the ring.  This is because during a training session, the table got knocked and it almost fell (good thing I was there to catch her and the table).  So we worked on that, to the point she actually liked the table. 

Up until that point, her movement was awesome.  Unfortunately, some of the hackney movement in the breed as a whole has been neglected, and we in Canada havent really been seeing good movers.  She is one.  She has a wonderful moving gait, hackney and all.

Now, when I have her walk the "up and back"  she side winds.  She doesnt walk a nice straight line anymore.

Some breeders of pins go "thats a min pin, has to do it her way"  but I want a wonderful show dog, who excells on the table and on the floor.  Any suggestions to get her walking straight?

Thanks a bunch.
- By bishop [gb] Date 06.11.07 07:44 UTC
i had a sidewinder too..... but a yankee............i used to take her to a very quiet cul-de-sac and i would walk in the road and at a brisk pace walk her on the edge of the footpath.......... if she moves  head away from you bottom in towards your legs ...............if its the other way around bottom out away from you... then try the oposite with her walking in the gutter as it were, and you up on the path.................however, we have found at ringcraft that some of the smaller breeds tend to sidewind if the handler has a flowing skirt, long jacket, lead dangling over the dogs head or if you have a heavy step or noisy shoes [ mostly on indoor venues obviously].............so try addressing all those potential problems too!
hope this has been of some help?
Pauline
- By Brainless [gb] Date 06.11.07 08:55 UTC
A small breed also needs to be further away from you to be able to see up at you, so they need to be allowed to be a bit further away from your side.  Is she crabbing away from you or towards you?  Alternating the side of you that you move her on in training will also help straighten her up
- By Crespin Date 07.11.07 13:13 UTC
She is moving where her head turns into me.  I put her on a handler, to see if that helps, but the same thing happens.  I thought it could be my stride at first, since I personally cant walk a straight line since I have had many leg operations. 
My mom said she mainly does it when she likes the person.  When she is worried about what they think, and wants to please them.  I tried putting her on a man, but she wouldnt do a thing!!!!!!!!!  So I am basically having to put her with women handlers if I pass her off, just so she will at least move. 

Anyways, I will try what you suggested.  Thanks so much for your help.
- By perrodeagua [gb] Date 07.11.07 13:22 UTC
Have you done any obedience with her?  Notice a lot of "obedience trained" dogs do this.  In many breeds it's an accepted way of moving but as you say in yours it is not.

Try holding your hand out in front with say titbits in it and see if she'll start following that!
- By Crespin Date 07.11.07 20:56 UTC
I wouldnt say she is obedience trained, more manner trained.  Meaning, when out for a normal walk, I dont make her heel, just she knows she cant pull.  She has no idea what the word sit means, or anything.  The only obedience type thing I have done with her is recall.  Just incase she decided to bult out the door, I can call her back to me. 

I have tried the treats, or bait, and she jumps up at it.  She is a toy breed, so keeping hunched over is the only way to get the treat at her nose level, but then she pulls way to hard to try and get the treat.
- By Brainless [gb] Date 08.11.07 08:59 UTC Edited 08.11.07 09:03 UTC
In that case I would try not looking at her and getting slightly ahead of her when moving her.  Tell her you are going to move, and then look straight ahead and no eye contact until you get to the end of the movement pattern, have someone else watch you, and praise her when you get to the end.

I have a similar problem with my Veteran 10 year old bitch.  She is always so pleased when she gets to go to a show that she is over eager to please.  In a small Ring she will restrict her stride and look up causing a hackney action, which is most definitely not wanted, but if I get ahead look straight ahead after the command to move she can open up and show the long flowing side gait she has.

Also when you are further in front you can hold bait in your hand away from your body so she has to look in that direction.  so wave the hand under her nose to get her attention and she knows the treat is there.  Stand Tall move a step ahead, give command to move and stride out in front of her with the treat held out in front and to the left of you.

Also change the side you move her on in training sometimes left and sometimes right.
- By Crespin Date 08.11.07 20:12 UTC
sounds helpful, I will surely try this at her session today!!!!!
- By Brainless [gb] Date 08.11.07 20:13 UTC
Good luck
Topic Dog Boards / Showing / Min Pin Acting funny

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