My GSD got a Class 1 grade at the recent survey this weekend!

Well done Tohme and dog! :D Bet that is an interesting event, if a bit hot for it this weekend.

M.

That's fantastic, Tohme

What lines is he/she?

Well done

Well done.

Can you explain what this means/entails

Congratulations tohme and to your dog! He must be a fine boy. Brainless, as I understand it getting class 1 in a GSD breed survey is a "recommended for breeding" rating.

Excellent! :)

Congratulations.

Can you explain what that involved Tohme? I am sure people reading this would be interested to know :)

Well done :-D

is this the same as the 'sujet Recommende' rating that France has or equivalent to the grades given for conformation showing ( Excellent, V good, good, acceptable ,poor,disqualified ) ?.

Yvonne

It is the breed side of the Korung(warning there is very loud music on the link)-The Korung includes the dog & handler doing protection work etc as well as being assessed against the breed standard. Without passing the Korung in Germany any offspring will only have white pedigrees & TBH no one breeds from dogs that have white pedigrees or that fail the Korung

The Breed ratings(Excellent etc)are only given at Breed shows

Yes that is what I meant.

The UK breed Survey is an assessment of the dog against the breed standard with a view to the dog possibly being used in breeding, I think the dogs have to be tattooed or chipped for ID, X rayed & hip scored & males haemophilia tested clear. Not sure if they have to have any working qualifications

The Breed Survey is not a competitive event like a breed show, where dogs vie for places and CCs etc.

It is where the dog is assessed against the breed standard.

WHen you enter you must bring documented evidence of:

Pedigree
KC Registration
Hip score
Elbow score
Blood test (if male)
tattoo/microchip
My dogs is also HC clear so I brought his eye test too.

The dog is measured for height as in a horse, depth of chest, length to height ratio. Walked up and down and then gaited.  The teeth are counted (all 42 must be present) and feet examined on top of the usual.

There is a gun test to demonstrate that the dog is not gunshy or vicious and then the dog is walked around milling people and dogs to determine temperament (not a problem with mine as he already has a BH).

Class 1 is considered recommended for breeding and Class 2 is considered suitable for breeding on the Continent.

In the UK a Class 1 is required I believe for entry into the British Sieger for adult dogs.

My dog is all continental Schutzhund bred Stebara,  karthago; one of his grand sires was the WUSV champion Asko Von Der Lutter.

He is grey.

I love Grey German dogs my German friend ,Petra, has bred some brilliant ones, hopefully my next GSD will be one of hers

Well done on getting the top grading.

it is a requirement for the adults to enter the British Sieger

I was particularly pleased as he was the only "working" line bred dog there, the rest were show dogs and he was the only grey.

Well I think you'll have to start showing him then and under the right judges he should hold his own.

Much prefer the working bred dogs as they have much stronger heads for starters ! ;-)

He does have a fabulous head, as for showing him, it is so political I have no idea of the right judges ie German v English "alsation"

Well sounds like the German type judges based on the survey.

LOLOL definite not the English he would really look out of place as he is of the correct proportions ;-)

So it is a more complex quality grading.  Is the grey like that in Elkhounds and Keeshonds?

Yes, the English call it sable, but in Germany it is simply called Graub, grey

This is probably a silly question so apologies in advance :D :D

What does a full set of teeth have anything to do with suitabilty for breeding ?

Does it mean a full set of teeth have grown but allows for extractions ?

In many European countries a dog without full dentition is a non starter at shows.  Missing dentition as opposed to lost teeth can be inherited the same as other mouth faults.

On the continent dogs are penalised for not having correct dentition. 

A full set of gnashers is desirable as it is my understanding that poor dentition and mouths may be heriditary?

I don't think you can take a letter with you explaining why your dog may have fewer teeth............

>What does a full set of teeth have anything to do with suitabilty for breeding ?

You only have to look at some of the "English"only dogs I judged one once(it went on to get made up :rolleyes:) It had no pre molars & lacked 6 other molars(it was also very unsound) !! It was unplaced & ungraded under me, yet two weeks later it won the CC & BOB !

Well most of the GSD in the UK are not required to do anything other than totter round the show ring.  :D :D

On the continent they must do more than "suck" the sleeve! ROFLMAO!

LOLOLOLOL I know just what you mean ;-)

Congratulations!!
It sort of sounds like the breeding permission days that we have over here as in you have to take all health test results, critiques,DNA etc and they will check movement,teeth, temperment etc.
I never forget Terry McHaffie (sp)  who as some will know was a GSD person but is no longer alive judging our other breed buhunds once and he was counting every single tooth and made everyone go round the ring 3 times, I don't know about the dogs but the handlers were starting to flag!! We had a good day though as he made our bitch up and BOB.