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Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / Nutrience?
- By chingi [gb] Date 21.02.05 20:02 UTC
Hi, is anybody feeding Nutrience? if so have you had good results? I have been feeding eukanuba but after all the bad things i have read about it i have decided to try a different dry food, i have heard Nutrience is good and also good reports about Royal Canin. Thanks in advance for any info. :-)
- By nutty [gb] Date 23.02.05 15:37 UTC
Nutrience is really good but it is hard to get hold of. I was feeding my dogs eukanuba but it went straight through them. Nutrience does not. If you hear anything about Royal Canin please let me know. If anyone knows where you can by this food please can you let me know.
- By chingi [gb] Date 24.02.05 09:01 UTC
Hi, my local pet store sells Nutrience, (bradford west yorks) the man there said it was excellent food but after making a few enquiries people that have used it said there dogs started to get picky and they thought to many herbs in the food had put the dogs off. I have a sample of Royal Canin  i am feeding at the moment and mine seem to love it, my younger bitch had gone really picky with eukanuba, but no probs as yet with Royal Canin. I suppose different foods suit different dogs, its just finding the right one! thanks for your reply.:-) :-)
- By rose [au] Date 24.02.05 10:49 UTC
My un-fussy dogs wouldnt touch nutrience,i agree,way too many herbs probaly put them off!

They absolutely loved royal canin,majority of dogs do, due to the strong,livery smell,but it contains BHA and a few other suspect ingredients so i wont feed it.
- By PaulaD [gb] Date 09.05.05 10:21 UTC
Hi, I'm a Nutrience Nutritional Advisor, previously a Vet Nurse for 17yrs.
Maybe I can help by telling you a little about Nutrience?
First, the herbs. Nutrience Super Premium Dog Food contains a special blend of 10-13 herbs, used principally for their natural preservative benefits (no chemicals are used in Nutrience), but also as they may just help with certain problems, eg;Ginger can ease nausea and vomiting, Fennel can help with wind etc. Vets and Nutritionalists are constantly striving to make Nutrience the most advanced Life Stage diet possible. However, the best diet in the world is no good if your dog won't eat it, so a great deal of thought has gone into the type and amount of herbs,and other ingredients, used. Most dogs LOVE the taste, but of course some dogs are naturally picky, and will chop and change at will, especially if given the choice! My own 12yr old Lab eats nothing but Nutrience Senior, one of our Vet Nurses successfully breeds and shows Staffies, they are fed solely Nutrience too. In fact all our Vet Nurses would feed nothing else! 
As for finding a stockist, a list can be found on our website at www.nutrience.com or by contacting our Nutrience Dept on 01977 556622. There are also a couple of on-line companies that stock Nutrience and a company which supplies in bulk, with DISCOUNTS for bulk purchases too! Please contact me for more details or any other Nutrience info. Cheers Paula
- By jo english [gb] Date 09.05.05 14:43 UTC
so as a Nutrience Nutritional Advisor i see your product contains  salt,  can you explain the benifits of salt in your prduct?
- By frodo [au] Date 09.05.05 15:54 UTC
i see your product contains  salt,  can you explain the benifits

Could it be for the iodine and sodium which are essential nutrients and i hazard to guess that it is cheaper to add salt rather than kelp???

I dont have a huge aversion to salt,there are  "natural" canine nutrition books that reccomend a small amount of salt in a dogs diet,especially when the dog cant tolerate kelp etc. A half tsp.of iodized salt contains.100mg of iodine,this can vary depending on the product :)

Although i disagree when it is added solely as a "flavour enhancer" which is often the case with some of the cheaper commercial foods.

Edie
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- By kahnandkcsmum [gb] Date 09.05.05 17:37 UTC
Hi, i have fed my dogs on 'nutrience' - i was advised by my breeder to do so and i am very impressed with it .Everyone that met my dogs gave me overwhelming compliment's on their coats and condition (long haired blacks) But i now feed Autarky. Which i do find very good but their skin and coats are not what they were !  :( 
                            I stopped feeding Nutrients because they did'nt like the adult supreme and would only eat the large breed puppy ! ( could do with advice on if it would be o.k to feed the puppy food or not ?) and the price was also a bit different  Autarky £13.00 a bag - Nutrience £42.00 a bag
                                                                           miranda x
- By jo english [gb] Date 09.05.05 21:02 UTC
we still await the responce from the Nutrience Nutritional Advisor as to why its added to thier food 
- By Isabel Date 09.05.05 21:19 UTC
So that will make three people telling you that sodium is an important mineral in any diet, will you believe it then?
- By tohme Date 10.05.05 06:16 UTC
Fat is important to a diet too, but, like salt, an excess is not only uncalled for but potentially harmful to health.
- By Isabel Date 10.05.05 13:59 UTC
I agree Tohme :) I just don't agree that we are talking about harmful levels here.
- By jo english [gb] Date 10.05.05 07:15 UTC
Isabel the poster has posted what can only be describe as an advertisement
for the company they work for, I have asked them- not you for information
as to why they put salt in their food. To date there has been no response. Surely
someone who is a Nutrience Nutritional Advisor will have no problems about answering this question .If they are able to answer this question I will be only too happy to read their post. You on the other hand
Have no idea why they put it in and as our views on salt in food have been discussed before on other post it's not your opinion that I am interested in -Jo 
- By PaulaD [gb] Date 10.05.05 09:25 UTC
Jo,Sorry for the delay, I'd no idea that there would be such a response, I wasn't watching the site!
Yes the salt is added for the mineral content, Sodium and Chloride are vital of fluid balance in the body, and also muscular contractions.Chloride is also needed for digestion. We all need some salt, it's when it is taken in excess that it becomes a problem. The amount of salt is balanced against the other ingredients and is optimal not excessive. It is not used as a flavour enhancer, there's no need, the other ingredients are already taking care of palatability.

Frodo, Kelp is used in nutrience too, as an excellent source of Iodine, which , as I'm sure you already know is important for a healthy nervous system, hormonal functions and the Immune system.

Miranda - maybe the dogs liked the bigger kibbles in the Large Breed Puppy, have you tried Adult Giant Breed, this has larger kibbles than the Adult, or if you are worried about their coats, Derma Lamb & Rice might be worth a try?
Hope this helps!
- By jo english [gb] Date 10.05.05 10:31 UTC
Thanks for the response .However as salt is found in  meat naturally
Why the need to add. Also you list salt as an ingredient and as far as I  AM aware
To be listed as a declared ingredient it must be more than 1%. if that's the case
Its benefit is more for palatability. Well I suppose you  could  quell this question
And let us  understand why you add salt if you can tell us the exact % of salt we can get a full picture?-Jo
- By PaulaD [gb] Date 10.05.05 12:04 UTC
The % of salt is between 0.75% and 1% depending on the formula. Of course, when comparing ingredients in one food with another, you need to bear in mind how much of the food you need to feed, eg; 1% of 375g works out at the same as 0.85% of 440g (I think my maths is right!).This is the total amount, so has taken into account that which is already in the meat etc. Also, if you look at a selection of brands of foods, you will see that some don't list salt at all. This can be because it comes under the umberella of "ash" which covers minerals in general. Another thing is that different countries have different regulations on declaring ingredients on the packaging. Nutrience is hiding nothing,which is one of the reasons that we show ingredients lists for ALL countries on our packaging.
Everyone has there own opinion about salt in the diet, both in human and pet diets, my own is that I just don't add extra to my food,I accept it is in most things that I eat anyway.
- By jo english [gb] Date 10.05.05 12:44 UTC
yes its good to see all the ingredeants listed , However this is taken from your own web site GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:
Crude protein min.  26.0 %
Crude fat min.  16.0 %
Crude fiber max.  3.0 %
Moisture max.  10.0 %
Ash max.  9.0 %
Calcium min.  1.2 %
Phosphorus min. 1.0 %
Salt min.  1.0 %
Vitamin A min.  20,000 I.U./kg
Vitamin D3 min.  1,200 I.U./kg
Vitamin E min.  110 I.U./kg
Vitamin C min.  50 mg/kg
salt is given at 1% min, ash content 9%( this also contains a salt content)
so overall the ammount of salt in this food is high ,given the dangers of over usage of salt,i would still prefer IMHO not to use a food with such a high added salt content.dog food can be made without
salt and some copainies  do  not add any, so they would gain preferance from myself-Jo  
- By Isabel Date 09.05.05 21:22 UTC

>i disagree when it is added solely as a "flavour enhancer"


One man's mineral is another man's flavour enhancer :)  I suspect the quantity that tips the balance is what is present in the food we feed as oppose to what the man next door feeds :p :D
- By frodo [au] Date 09.05.05 22:30 UTC
Some manufactures add it for it's minerals,whereas others add salt to within an inch of the allowed standards,there is a difference IMO :)

Like i said earlier there is nothing wrong with a minmal amount of salt, given for the correct reasons :p
Topic Dog Boards / Feeding / Nutrience?

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