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By arched
Date 02.02.13 14:10 UTC
By Nova
Date 02.02.13 14:22 UTC

From what point of view, don't suppose the dog minds - always used to take my pups out in a camera case and they did not mind at all.
Always have taken my Gsd puppies out & about whilst waiting for injections to kick in ,so a simple back pack put on frontways so could support bum of pup .They then got all the socialiastion they require at a early age.
By Stooge
Date 02.02.13 14:52 UTC
I know what you mean, Arched, the caption stating "a fashionable way to carry your pet" is certainly off putting and would appear to encourage treating dogs as accessories.
If it was marketed as something useful for the elderly or inform dog (but then it may not be all that comfortable if they suffer arthritis in those limbs) or as an aid to puppy socialising I think we may be more comfortable with it.

I too use similar carriers to socialise my pups out and about from approx 6 weeks old weather permitting.
It doesn´t look that comfortable for the dog to me.
By Stooge
Date 02.02.13 15:57 UTC
> It doesn´t look that comfortable for the dog to me.
I don't think so either and I think we would would need to have considerable adjustment capability to ensure it was safe and not twisting or cramping or applying dangerous restrictions to circulation.
Really don't like this particular carrier at all as I don't like the back legs poking through with no support or the front legs, the dog is stuck in that position for who knows how long. I've never even liked the front facing baby carriers as I don't feel that the baby is properly protected. So this one is a big no, no for me.
I like the puppy pouches though have always used them so that pups can come on long walks with other dogs and just come out for a runaround to socialise they are brilliant, but they are literally like a bag and pup can snuggle down to sleep if they want or peep over the top to see what is going on, they are nice and comfy like a hammock, I would never want the legs strapped in (or out) like that.
I guess toy dogs are treated like pups, babies and dolls by some for all of their lives, the gear you see for these dogs is unbelievable. :-D But, each to their own, I guess there are worse things a dog can go through...... just glad we can't hear the screams from all the little Tinkerbells over the world saying get me outta this darn dress!!!
By arched
Date 02.02.13 17:15 UTC
Dogs are built to be on four legs or lying down/curled up, not propped up like a baby. This is so unnatural and I dread to think how long some people would keep their dog in one. I don't get the socialisation reason, to be at an adult chest height, facing outwards, what's that teaching ?. Puppies can meet adults at the height they are intended to be. Call me old fashioned but a dog is a dog and should be respected as one, not treated like a baby or toy.
The sling type ones I can sort of get over, at least if it's a very tiny dog and it has to be taken through a crowded area then it can be safe - and it can sit down in comfort.
>Puppies can meet adults at the height they are intended to be.
Not until they're fully immunised; in the meantime the need to be carried.
By Brainless
Date 02.02.13 17:19 UTC
Edited 02.02.13 17:26 UTC
> I don't get the socialisation reason,
for pups before vaccinations. I usually put mine in a holdall type bag, and carry them around until after their second vaccinations, which is a good month/6 weeks or so.
By furriefriends
Date 02.02.13 17:35 UTC
Edited 02.02.13 17:39 UTC

all my pups from gsd to pom have been carried in a sling type baby carrier the type that you put on like a arm sling. They are then the right way up for a dog and can curl up if they wish.Only until they were able to walk on the ground though. No I think that one is cruel i am surprised a dog doesnt wriggle too much like that to be carried anyway
Btw my littlest may be a pom/chi but she does have legs and isnt carried any more unless there is a safety reason :)
similar to this
http://www.thebabasling.com/?gclid=CKau_pOVmLUCFePHtAodQAMA3A
By arched
Date 02.02.13 17:37 UTC
'I don't get the socialisation reason'
Sorry, I meant for the use of this particular type of carrier where the dog isn't meeting people or seeing things from a more natural position. It can't move or show signs of how it could be feeling when it's strapped up like this. In a bag or sling it has the option of some movement and comfort.
By Celli
Date 02.02.13 18:05 UTC

Like others I've used the sling type carriers and found them to be a real asset, means puppy doesn't have to be left behind on walks .
I meant for the use of this particular type of carrier where the dog isn't meeting people or seeing things from a more natural position
Totally agree, it's enough to terrify any dog being in that position, can't think of any that would like it, when you think about it, even though it is in a carrier the dog is still sitting with underbelly (the most submissive sign from a dog) outwards, pinned in that position towards oncoming 'traffic' very unnatural for a dog.
Who on earth invents these things?
>I've never even liked the front facing baby carriers as I don't feel that the baby is properly protected.
Me neither; and you can't even make eye contact with your baby, who's totally exposed to the elements and isolated for interaction. Horrible, horrible things. For a puppy to be held in this unnatural position is certainly just as bad; a sling that holds them horizontally across your body (basically just taking a bit of their weight and preventing them wriggling out of your arms as you carry them) is far better.
The other day I saw a cat being pushed around in a buggy which had netting around it to keep the cat in .
I am sure the lady had a valid reason, but she looked strange to me.
By Daisy
Date 02.02.13 19:31 UTC
> you can't even make eye contact with your baby
Have to say that my son (when he was a small baby) much preferred to be carried this way - any other way he screamed !! However, we didn't carry him out of the house like this, he was happy in a buggy as long as it was moving :) :)
I would be worried about knocking a small puppy's legs in this outward position ie brushing against people in a crowd etc
I've got a doggie pram that also serves as a trailer for a bike ! Puppies/elderly or infirm doggies can travel !
The concept is good but the design is poor. Doesnt look overly comfortable and dont like it being marketed as something fashionable rather than for practical reasons. I bought a similar carrier when I had my baby and was petrified that if I fell my baby would take the impact and/or be squashed by me. For the same reasons I wouldnt be happy wearing this carrier with a dog in it. Ive seen an elderly lady with an even older dog out for their walks with the dog sat happily in a push chair type contraption. Much safer, sturdier and putting the dog in a more realistic height and comfortable position
When I lived in Spain I bought a pet stroller for my toy dog. It was great because I could take him to the markets without him getting trampled on or tripping people up and he didn´t have to be left home alone so often. He loved it because people thought it was such a novelty they all made a fuss of him.
By JeanSW
Date 02.02.13 22:05 UTC
>Who on earth invents these things?
Total bozos who really have no canine knowledge whatsoever.

haha have seen people at park carrying their chi like that. Guess it makes sense cause their lil legs can only walk so far and after
awhile holding them your arms would get sore.
By JeanSW
Date 04.02.13 14:47 UTC

I honestly think that it depends what the dog is used to. I have seen people with adult Chihuahuas, and it is obvious by their muscle tone that they are an accessory.
However, all my Chihuahuas have been born with legs. Which is why they race with the Collies, and scramble through the compost heap, and generally behave as dogs. :-) :-) :-)
I really believe that we make them what they are.

There's a place for pet carriers, I've used them with young puppies so I can just do one walk, and let the puppy be carried for a rest when they've walked far enough. My friend brought her Cavalier to our trial in a doggy pushchair yesterday and a few people laughed, but it was a freezing cold day and I bet she was a lot happier than standing around on the freezing ground waiting her turn in the ring. That's not to say both our dogs don't have proper walks and get treated like normal dogs the rest of the time! That particular one in the link above though really doesn't look at all comfortable.
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