Dill, none of these scenarios can be compared in any way to choosing to breed dogs

Carrington-- I don't think the wording should be changed. I think it should be adhered to.

Zan - we are human......... it can not always be adhered to, too many variations in life and luck happen, we are not Gods, we do not control our destiny.......... unfortunately.

Dear lord, someone thump me on the head, better still thump others!

I'm not making a comparison, any/all of these situations can arise whether or not you breed dogs.   Or do you believe bad things only happen to bad people?

In a perfect world we'd all be well prepared for every eventuality, but combine several and no one can possibly be prepared.

But it seems some people think everyone should be prepared for everything.   Which is unreasonable since none of us have a crystal ball.

This isn't directed at you Dill.

This thread clearly has come to an end and really think admin now should seriously think about locking this:
We all have our opinions and some are differing and others not so. I really don't think that this is benefiting anyone especially the dog which Pedlee has posted about, we are going around and around in circles.

Pedlee I wish the boy all the luck in the world that he soon finds his new forever home x

Zan,

It is not clear to me that the wording means that which you assert. I don't think it means that breed rescues should never be involved, simply that those rescues should not be relied on as a matter of course. As already stated, involving a rescue while you work to help a dog that is your responsibility is rather different from evading responsibility and leaving the matter in its entirety for a rescue to deal with.

With respect, I think you are being a little dogmatic and black and white in your interpretation of the phrasing.

Perhaps a post script - who pays for breed rescue in the first place - would you believe it, those irresponsible breed breeders, well there's a thought.

Wonder how much BYB and Puppy farms give and raise for general rescue?

> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">Zan - we are human......... it can not always be adhered to, too many variations in life and luck happen, we are not Gods, we do not control our destiny.......... unfortunately.

I thought my life was brilliant - a loving family, myself and my husband in jobs that although weren't amazingly well paid  did provide a standard of living we managed on, two amazing children and at last beginning to have a little more time to ourselves.

And then my husband was diagnosed with a terminal illness. He had to stop working and I became his carer. Without going into lots of detail the life we had was turned completely on it's head. We had been responsible and taken out life insurance when we were first married but that matured after he was diagnosed so we weren't allowed to renew it. For eight years we lived off less than £5000 a year - four of us fed, clothed etc and paying our mortgage which we had to extend - only had 3 years left to pay on it but in order to meet the payments and not lose the house we had paid for for over 20 years we had to extend the repayment period by a further 10 years. We had to use our savings to survive.

Sometimes with the best will in the world things happen that just can't be controlled and we then have to do the best we can with what we have.

I too am now leaving this thread as I don't think there is much more to be said that hasn't been said already.

I think in future I will be linking to this Article (an interview) with Dr.Willis senior lecturer in Genetics and breeding (Newcastle University) in the article he is asked 'what is the criteria that makes a good breeder' (I prefer this article as I'm a science geek but also I subscribe to Willis' ethos that 'Mating dogs is not dog breeding. It is the reproduction of dogs. A breeder should be seeking to mate the right dogs in the right way...')

The basic tool kit to make a good breeder~Animal genetics and breeding- Dr.Malcolm.B.Willis BSC Phd

More pertinently Willis states:

>' A breeder who has no interest in rescue of what he has produced is of no value to anyone, and of even less value to his breed'

The OP on this thread cannot by any decent and fair standard be accused of having had 'no interest' in the homing of her dog. Foster homes were sourced and paid for, vets were tracked down to get the dogs history to ensure its well being, monies have been found and paid for transportation amongst other things and through out the OP has been honest, frank and transparent about all this.

I would also like to state that from a Welfare point of view in this particular instance with what this dog had been through, I believe that boarding kennels would not have been an ideal option as some have suggested and for those that suggested it *for this OP and therefore this dog* I strongly suggest you read (or better attend the seminars) on Canine Stress by Turid Ruggaas!

Sue, is absolutely right... With the greatest of respect to all and with compassion for the OP who has been on more than enough if an emotional rollercoaster these past days ~ The thread ought to lock.
     Anyone wishing to continue the debate of 'Breeder responsibilities' stated or perceived should start a thread for that specific topic.

I couldn't agree more and luckily somebody reported it to me. :-)
Jeff.