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- By Tilly3812 [gb] Date 29.06.12 21:36 UTC
can anyone advise on milk coming out of puppies nose please
- By JeanSW Date 29.06.12 22:01 UTC
Have you had the pup checked for cleft palate?
- By Tilly3812 [gb] Date 29.06.12 22:32 UTC
Yes vet checked today said there's no cleft palate
- By JeanSW Date 29.06.12 22:38 UTC
Good!  :-)   Sounds like a bit of guzzling thank goodness.  I guess if she's a greedy guts it's better than not feeding.  It is hard to have one this tiny, as you don't want them choking, but need the goodness from mum for pup to thrive.  You are obviously aware that a pup this tiny is dificult to rear, and I think it's a case of you just being vigilant.  You need to just keep an eye on things, it is the only thing to do, as you can't risk her losing weight.  Use a damp piece of cotton wool to wipe any surplus from nostrils.
- By Esme [gb] Date 29.06.12 22:47 UTC

> I personally still use them for toys.  Always have.


I found a heatpad useful for our one & only litter of toys. They really did gravitate towards it even though I had nice new comfy vetbed in there and a covered box. But have never needed a heatpad for the large breed though.
- By MsTemeraire Date 29.06.12 22:55 UTC Edited 29.06.12 23:09 UTC
Never had a litter of pups, and in cat breeding only once had experience of a singleton.

Normally the litter group together for warmth and comfort, so a single baby needs an extra heat source to compensate for this... Heatpad wrapped in vetbed, wheatbag in the shape of a furry toy, or even one of the old fashioned stone hot water bottles wrapped in fleece.

My point being, no matter what the species, an unexpected singleton needs compensation for the warmth it would usually get via shared heat from its siblings.
- By JeanSW Date 29.06.12 22:56 UTC

>But have never needed a heatpad for the large breed though.


Which I totally understand, but my personal experience with breeds that only weigh a couple of ounces at birth, feel like ice when not in contact with mum.  As no doubt you are aware (not trying to teach anyone to suck eggs here), cold pups are not able to digest mums milk. 

So yes, like your toy litter, vetbed, heatpad, covered box.  I think it must be so very different with larger pups, but I have a breed that can weigh 500gm at 12 weeks, and the big dog breeders probably could never comprehend that scenario!  :-)
- By Esme [gb] Date 30.06.12 10:24 UTC

> I have a breed that can weigh 500gm at 12 weeks, and the big dog breeders probably could never comprehend that scenario!  :-)


I can, at my feet is my large breed bitch who weighed in at 520 gm at birth and now weighs 60+ kilos, while on my knee is my toy girl who's about 4.5 kilos now and her pups were correspondingly small at birth! It was quite an education but I feel a much more informed breeder because of it!
- By JeanSW Date 30.06.12 10:32 UTC

>large breed bitch who weighed in at 520 gm at birth


:eek:  :eek:  :eek:  Blimey!  :-)

And I'm used to 2-3kg adults!
- By cracar [gb] Date 30.06.12 10:40 UTC
You've probably got the room too hot.  That's when mine start getting restless.  Cool the room down a bit and give your girl some cold water to drink to get her temp down a bit.  Remember she's got a mini-hotwater bottle now!
- By marisa [gb] Date 30.06.12 15:07 UTC
Mine had a covered den but I still used a heatpad in the centre of the box (August)
- By Rhodach [gb] Date 30.06.12 17:12 UTC
Keeping the puppy temp high in the first few weeks prevents infections like Canine Herpes getting a hold and killing the pup, I have a heat pad at one end of the bed so both Mum and pups can lie on it or not as they choose.

With a full litter it is easier to judge if the pups are warm enough, if they are too warm they will be sprawled out away from each other, if too cold they will tightly huddle together, just right and they will be resting their heads on each other but more relaxed.

I keep a room thermometer with minimum/maximum at puppy level and aim for the upper 70F.
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