> Enough Ignores will result in the person being removed I believe.

Will do. Had enough, and not just on here, same old same old on at least one other dog forum I read.

I'm loving the ignore option already! :)

How can anyone say that dog should have been put to sleep?
The dog put its teeth on him yes, but it didnt bite as such, it certainly didnt hurt enough for the man to move his hand away.
In my opinion that dog just had a mouthing problem nothing more.

> The dog put its teeth on him yes, but it didnt bite as such, it certainly didnt hurt enough for the man to move his hand away.

Sounds like very good bite inhibition to me.
Now it is up to the owner to work out WHY it did that, and learn the dog's body language enough to see it coming in future. In my experience animals will only resort to using teeth if their other signals have been ignored, and this seems like a gentle warning. I've had something similar from cats, rabbits and other species.... tellimg me in the most assertive, but nicest, way they can manage... to back off. No harm intended.

Click on the 'persons' name and you will get an Ignore option.
Enough Ignores will result in the person being removed I believe.

Oh really - is that true? interesting! :)
I must admit, I'm sick and tired of so many threads involving shock collars (not just on this board).
I don't particularly enjoy coming on here and having to speak against shock collars.
It just annoys me and spoils enjoyment of the forum.
And threads go off on tangents with the same old same old.

Lindsay
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The owner had persited with this dog for a long time, the owner had tried other trainers/behaviourists ect. No luck. Yes the dog had bite inhibition, but if it bit a total stranger I doubt that would make much diffrerence in the eyes of the law. As already stated you can't keep many dogs totally below threshold at all times.

Adam

This is an interesting scientific paper on the use of aversives in dog training-http://www.dogdaysnw.com/doc/overall_collars.pdf

He only references a few studies both of which used the stim too high and didn't guide the dog into the correct behaviour. Aside from that its all his opinion on the subject.

Adam

This is an interesting scientific paper on the use of aversives in dog training-http://www.dogdaysnw.com/doc/overall_collars.pdf

Yes, that's a good paper. Dr Karen Overall works very hard to get better deals for dogs in training. She sees for herself the effects of shock collar use. I can't recall if it's this paper or another one, but she reiterates the tale of a military dog who had been trained with shock and the effects could still be seen, even though now it was trained more humanely. Only those with very keen eyes for body language could understand and see that the dog had previously been shocked.

Her opinion should carry a lot of weight. I have great respect for those who stand up against shock collar trainers. It takes courage, as usually you will find them severely and personally attacked on other forumsby shock supporters.

Lindsay
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