Lucyd you got 2 males together?? I have always bene told that is (not meant to be offensive to you!) stupid! what if they had started fighting? and the reason they went crazy when you introduced a female is because of dominance between the 2, the right to own the bitch muist of been horrible for her! I honestly thought 2 males together was the biggest NO NO in the doggy world!

>I honestly thought 2 males together was the biggest NO NO in the doggy world!

The biggest NoNo is two bitches very close in or the same age. Believe me I've had experience when two bitches fall out & it is forever

I've had up to 6 entire males & three entire females(two related & one much older)GSDs + two BC's in the same house(one entire male & one spayed female)at the same time & the only problem was with one GSD bitch & my BC bitch. The dogs never even had a scuffle even when the bitches were in season & three of the males were stud dogs

I currently have three/four entire males(one visits regularly) who live happily together with no aggro at all. I'm getting another BC & possibly another Cavalier both will be entire males & I foresee no problems. Two of the Cavaliers are close in age & they are the best of mates.

That must be just with Staffordshire Bull Terriers that you dont have 2 males together for obvious reasons!
I would never have 2 male staffs together no matter how many people tell me i can as i have heard stories of people who have had 2 and come back to find some horrific situations, so it must be bull breeds that 2 males is a big nono and any respected breeder will not sell a male to someone who already has a male unless they have years and years of expierance and even then most wont, as once they fall out thats it. 2 females can also be bad, mixed sex pairs are always best!
with cavaliers theyre not to dominant anyway are they, the little cuties!

Yes certain breeds are known for not getting on with their own sex, Staffies and Akitas for instance. Many others are absolutely fine. Like MM says it's usually worse with bitches.

>with cavaliers theyre not to dominant anyway are they, the little cuties!

LOLOL tell that to my BC he is totally domiminated by Joedee who weighs in at 7 kgs & Rjj the BC is more than 4 times as big as him !!

BTW not all cavaliers are sweet dogs believe me badly bred/reared ones can be as aggressive as any dog, my friend had a black & tan who was downright nasty  :-( ! Out first Cavalier was attacked in the ring by the dog that stood second to him This other Cavalier was used for breeding by his owner & this was her excuse :rolleyes::rolleyes:

It really does depend on the age gap between some breeds a friend has two male SBTs but there is 5 years between them in age & both are well bred & reared & socialized & do Obedience(one is now retired). Would never have two akitas let alone two of the same sex

I dont think i would ever chance to staffies together, all the books in the world about staffies (and i have read alot!!) say NEVER to have 2 males together, it may be ok and you may be lucky but if something should go wrong you cant do anything and you'll more then likely lose one of them when they have the duel to the death.

Cavs are the same as any dog, if theyre brought up well and trained, socialised theyre fine! i cant stand people who dont train theyre dogs, i really think they should make people train their dogs at least to a certain standard, we are getting a new male staffie puppy in october and were taking him to ringcraft  and then obedience classes same as our bitch staffie Mitsy had to do and she came top of the class as well as we woulnt own a unsocialised dog espicially a staff, its not fair on the dog and their reputation!

Cavs are the same as any dog, if theyre brought up well and trained, socialised theyre fine!

No I would disagree. Temperament is to a large extent inherited, and as Brainless points out gundogs for instance are often fine together, even several stud dogs with bitches around them, because they have been BRED to be like this. Gundogs have to be able to be several together out on a shoot, it would not work if they were aggressive to the same sex. In other breeds there is not this to consider, and hence it may not have been paid attention to when breeding. As a rule Cavaliers do get on with other dogs just fine -obviously you do get the odd one that doesn't (I've had one myself) -but it's a breed where you are MORE likely to find that two male dogs will get on fine, than in some other breeds. It doesn't have much to do with training and upbringing.Breeds are after all born with certain traits -a Golden will retrieve, a Malinois will guard etc, -try getting a Malinois to retrieve and a Golden to guard, you CAN do it but it is much, much harder than the other way around as the dogs were born with certain traits.

Yes, 2 entire males, we had no trouble until Ellie arrived. She doesn't seem affected at all by it I must say, she's friends with both. Even then I think it was purely how we handled the problem. Being novice owners, and having had no squabbles between the boys, we weren't sure what to do when the fight blew up. More background - we'd split the pack as my OH was away with one boy for a few days while I was at home with the other two dogs, so each boy had had a few days as only male. We got what I now realise was AWFUL advice over the phone from a 'behaviourist' recommended by a colleague, and by the time we got better advice the memories the two boys had were so bad and scary it is probably too late without enormous skill to reintegrate. However they are FINE together most of the time still, I can have one on my lap and the other will jump up next to me, or if I'm grooming one and forget the other one is out and put him down, they just sniff and walk away. But IF something reminds them and they go for each other, they only give a split second's warning, so usually we keep a stairgate between them.

It sounds like the prospective owners in the OP's case is far too experienced to let a problem escalate to begin with though.

Depends on breed, many of the gundog breeds even stud dogs live happily together. 

With many other breeds things are fine unless there is an entire bitch for them to quarrel over, and then often only when she is coming into or is in season. 

Some breeds males can rarely be kept together, and yet in others both sexes dislike their own sex.

Generally I think in average sociable breeds males are more likely to fight, and bitches less likely bit more seriously when they do.

Brainless is correct, many gundog people will have a couple of males and a couple of females although the general rule is you keep more females then males or no females. :)

i think with staffords it like what was said before, it can happen that fights brake out and are irrecoverable for circumstance. dont think im willing to take the risk, this will be my only male if we get more it will be females! lovely cheeky girls!

bitch staffords can actually be worse than two male staffords...
all depends on each individual dog/bitch...

I know a Stafford breeder and they only mix opposite sex pairs, never two dogs or two bitches, which means the dogs have to take turns in going into the garden in pairs, walks ans time with the family, the rest of the time they are segregated from their own sex.

Goodness - is it worth it ? :(

Daisy

how sad luckily all my hounds can enjoy the social life of being part of a pack....only seperations occur when someone comes into season.

Hi Jon,

I have no problem letting couples with children have pups but I do have to be sure of them by how they interact with the adults dogs and then the pups too. I would say Trust your gut instinct, you will only worry if you let the pup go to them. I have found in the past that your first reaction (gut instinct) is 99% right. They are your pups and it is your perogative to sell them to the best posible owners

i have 5 bitches together: 3 dobermanns and 2 chinese crested - all entire - and no problems.  the oldest is 7 and the yougest 4 months, I also have a mother and daughter among them.  all temepraments are bomb proof and i belive that is a major factor.

I also have a male castrated dobe.

All 6 dogs live together, sleep together and eat together and have NEVER had to be seperated.

I guess I am one of the lucky ones

F
xxx

I have had five bitches altogether and various dogs come to stay.  In fact some of the visitors have been various dobe bitches.  Can be done with many breeds, but a few not.