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Topic Dog Boards / General / Cross breeds in rescue (locked)
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- By KathyM [gb] Date 25.03.03 21:34 UTC
Hi Katrina
A "troll" is someone who deliberately starts trouble on a board for a laugh. They go around the message forums finding subjects that'll upset people on purpose, because they get off on it. I hope for the world's sake she is one!
Take care
Kathy
xxx
- By ChinaBlue [gb] Date 25.03.03 21:37 UTC
Thanks Kathy & Taylor

For the animal world's sake I hope she is one too!
K
- By lel [gb] Date 25.03.03 21:40 UTC
Poor dogs when they get to 8 ( just incase they cause too much stress) - never mind can always go and get a new puppy then- that hopefully wont get sick and be a nuisance
:(
Lel
- By valadictorian [gb] Date 25.03.03 21:46 UTC
How about all of you people into this breeding thing wake up a bit and recognise exactly what you are contributing towards the amount of dogs in rescue, no I know you would never knowingly sell a dog to anyone who would ever pass it or its offspring on to a rescue, no dogs in rescue or their ancestors ever came from a breeder did they? Well others with more scruples would never breed or sell a dog full stop. Neuter Neuter Neuter Neuter and that will reduce the number of dogs in rescue and nothing else. Long live the humble mongrel. Breeder should be a dirty word.
- By John [gb] Date 25.03.03 21:52 UTC
Small point valadictorian, but if no one bred a litter then dogs would die out in one generation!
- By Taylor [ie] Date 25.03.03 21:53 UTC
I (in parts) agree with your posting BUT shouldn't it say Valedictorian :D.

Taylor
- By valadictorian [gb] Date 25.03.03 22:02 UTC
In Response To
I (in parts) agree with your posting BUT shouldn't it say Valedictorian .

Taylor


Shouldn't it say Tailor? Or was that already registered too?
- By Taylor [ie] Date 25.03.03 22:03 UTC
Nice try, Vale, Taylor as in James :D.

Taylor
- By lel [gb] Date 25.03.03 21:56 UTC
Breeders would not breed if there wasnt a market there .
There are different classes of breeders . Those that strive to perfect ( as near as possible) in their breed line and those that want to make MONEY!!!!!!!!
How could they make money if gullible Joe Public wasnt around wanting to buy a cute puppy . Why did puppy farms come about -because people who want a cute puppy and who do no research into their pet , who dont train their pet and get bored as it gets older and the novelty wears off hand over their money very readily and poor pupl ands up either on the streets or in rescue .
A good breeder can do all the checks they possibly can into the new owner but once that pup has gone, the breeder has no rights over that pup and cannot control what happens to it . I think its IDIOT owners you should be criticizing not DECENT breeders . Although i have to agree with the idiots who breed to line their pockets
And by the way I am not a breeder , I have never bred and have no intention of doing so
Lel
- By ChinaBlue [gb] Date 25.03.03 21:27 UTC
I just cannot believe that someone would put their dog to sleep because it was causing THEM too much stress! It is SO heartbreaking to put a dog to sleep for a good reason. I HAD to have my GSD put to sleep last December, and it still breaks my heart. The fact that you could do that to your dog without really having to makes me feel sick. How lucky your other two dogs don't have any illnesses, God help them when they do. Please do the animal kingdom a favour and don't have anymore animals - ever.
- By John [gb] Date 25.03.03 21:38 UTC
I cannot believe this post is for real. Just some child trying to be "Grown up" and making themselves look very silly at the same time.
- By mattie [gb] Date 25.03.03 21:38 UTC
I saw a beautifull golden retreiver yesterday who lives with my friend,she came up and welcomed me six years old , very happy and content......she was taken to be put to sleep by her owners because she had diabetes my friend who is a rescue coordinator took her home and she has been there ever since.
stray Rescue kennels ( NOT BREED RESCUE) put dogs even puppies to sleep if they have been there 7 days and are not claimed or homed in this area , they have limited room.we need to educate owners to be more responsible.

this is the real world..wake up
- By KathyM [gb] Date 25.03.03 21:41 UTC
I would also like to point out that I have owned 2 "old" rescue dogs in the past - both lived to 15! To say that an 8 yr old is old is ridiculous and an uneducated view.
Kathy
x
ps: I didnt get them put down when they stressed me out!
- By ace [gb] Date 26.03.03 01:43 UTC
Hi Char123
I,v just been reading your post with utter disbelief, as the owner of a couple of oldies and a 5 year old afghan ,i have had to have timeout before i could answer this post otherwise it would have probably been deleted,as your collies are only 3 years and 10 months old i should think that they are fit and healthy. The only way i would have my dogs pts would be if they had an illness where there was nothing that could be done and they were in terrible pain,and i certainly wouldn't have a dog put to sleep because it was having fits , there is medication to help dogs that fit.And yes i know what it's like when a dog is having a fit as i look after a friends dog that is epilectic when she goes on holiday, he too is an old dog and yes it is distressing whilst they are fitting but they soon come out of it and then they are usually right as rain straight after,.I really hope you don't class yourself as a dog lover, cos that you ain't
- By Doogie [gb] Date 25.03.03 22:23 UTC
Of course people shouldn't be breeding crossbreeds, or rather, breeding any dog indiscriminately. But to say what you have said regarding dogs being PTS at 8 is ........well...it's got me gobsmacked and I can assure you, that doesn't happen often. I've recently lost my oldest dog at 11 years old and I miss him terribly. He came to me only 14 months ago - so he was way over 8 years old at that time, and the joy he brought into our home was beyond measure. I know that every genuine - repeat - genuine dog lover reading this will understand what I am saying.

The only way to cut down on the number of dogs in rescue is for everyone to neuter their dog if they are not planning on breeding from it - and those breeding should only be doing so from healthy pure bred dogs, not mongrels or crossbreeds.

Oh, and one of my other dogs - he has some medical issues and they take up some of my time. But I love him and he won't be going anywhere until it is for HIS benefit, not my own.
- By Lisa-safftash [gb] Date 25.03.03 22:38 UTC
I know...any time now, that this thread is going to be locked. So before that happens, I have to have my say.

The 'Troll' should never be allowed to own dogs, or any animal for that matter.
Troll, if you're reading this...you disgust me, and it seems you disgust most people on this board.
Having a dog put to sleep, even though there was not much wrong with it, it was just causing you too much stress...what kind of a person are you?
Oh and dogs in rescue.....put them to sleep if they're over 8.....oh my GOD..are you mad?? So many people want to give homes to older dogs, and bear in mind....some of these dogs will live to be near to 20 yrs old.

Again....I think you're disgusting.

Lisa
- By polar [gb] Date 25.03.03 22:48 UTC
Here here Lisa and everybody else who have replied to this 'low-life Troll', but then again this person could be perfectly serious in their statement and beliefs. If anything that poor Afghan was probably fitting due to the stress inflicted by living with such an owner! Lucky this person wasn't around when breeds were being developed other wise there wouldn't have been any!!!

Long live the xbreed, the rescue dogs and the vetran dogs whatever their type, breed or home status for that matter.
- By Taylor [ie] Date 25.03.03 22:50 UTC

>>this person could be perfectly serious in their statement and beliefs<<


THAT would be very frightening indeed.

Taylor
- By Carla Date 25.03.03 23:18 UTC
Bit harsh. If Char123's statement is taken at face value then it does look bad...but I think perhaps we should allow her to explain a little more fully before jumping down her throat. The dog could have been biting, or could have been a danger to himself....

Don't want to start a row - but perhaps we should wait for them to explain a little more fully?

Chloe :)
- By Lisa-safftash [gb] Date 25.03.03 23:39 UTC
Hiya Chloe....

I didn't mean to be nasty, but this thread started off with that person saying all dogs in rescue should be PTS at 8 yrs of age....that can't be right surely?

Again, I'm not being nasty....I have 2 old dogs (10 and 8) that i've just taken on due to my brother in laws untimely death. I could NEVER let these dogs be put to sleep...they're happy, and apart from probs that occur with old age they are healthy.
Seriously Chloe...would you have them PTS? Apparently this person would.

Also...I have a cat that fits.....and I know it's difficult, my vet won't do anything, because he only fits every 3/4 months....if it was any more often there would be medication to help. But still...i wouldn't consider having him PTS....

Maybe it's just me....I don't know, and Chloe, i didn't mean to upset you or anyone.....i just find it difficult to understand some peoples reasoning :D

take care

Lisa
- By Carla Date 26.03.03 08:24 UTC
Hi Lisa

See my post below - I would never advocate that an oldie was pts. Infact, as soon as my kids are older I shall actively rescue oldies as opposed to having puppies :)

Chloe
with an oldie sbt rescue already :)
- By alytiger [gb] Date 26.03.03 00:04 UTC
A dog is a living breathing creature, that has feelings and emotions, and has the right to live a full healthy life, It is not there fault if they are born into a cruel and uncaring world and end up in a rescue, It should be our job as responsable humman beings to help them and stop there suffering.

alytiger
- By Ash [gb] Date 26.03.03 00:22 UTC
I have sat here for quite sometime reading your posts with utter disbelief. Why on earth should dogs over a certain age be put to sleep? The most loving dog I have ever had the honour of knowing was a cross breed collie aged ten years at least. What have any of these darling OAPS done to deserve such a judgment. I find the things you have said in your post utterly offensive what ever will you be suggesting next? Any human over 60 gets the same treatment?I honestly dread to think what will happen to your other dogs a: when their older b:if they get sick. Good grief you sound quite like Ebeneezer Scrooge when he quoted "well let them die and decrease the surplus population" and we all know how unpopular he was!!!! If this is the attitude you have to animals then perhaps you should seriously reconsider whether your worthy of owning any pets.
- By Lisa-safftash [gb] Date 26.03.03 00:40 UTC
Agree wholeheartedly Ash
- By Lynsey [gb] Date 26.03.03 07:57 UTC
had to reply to this but just to say I agree with the other posts, 'troll' (as that is what I believe you are) but just incase this is serious, I am gobsmacked at your posts, are you serious?????????, how do you sleep at night?

:( thats all I can say :(
- By KathyM [gb] Date 26.03.03 08:09 UTC
She must be a troll, she hasn't replied because her job is done. If she is a troll, it's unlikely she has even got a pet, as she wouldnt be able to be so heartless on here.
- By LisaLQ [gb] Date 26.03.03 08:12 UTC
Char123 - what can I say? I can think of a lot of things I'd like to, but would probably get banned for them.
You say old dogs and crossbreeds should all be put to sleep? You say you had your dog put to sleep because of the stress YOU were going through?
*sigh* I didn't know there were people that mean and stuck up.
The oldies and the mix-ups (as the kids call them) are the best. You're missing out on a great deal if you've never loved an oldie. At what age will you have your other two put to sleep? And for what reason? Costing too much? Don't look as "perfect" at an old age? Dont match your designer wallpaper?
I think you should be seriously ashamed of your comments. If there was a test for dog ownership (and I think there should be) I believe you'd fail dramatically. I feel very sorry for your dogs, if they've only got til they're 8.
Char123 - have you thought of changing your nickname? Oh no, Brainless is already taken I see...
- By Carla Date 26.03.03 08:21 UTC
The poster was expressing an opinion - a suggestion - probably based on very limited experience.

If she is a troll then I think its best off to ignore this from now on. I agree with what John says - the poster has limited experience.

To answer the post Char123: If you are suggesting that all crossbreeds are pts to cut down on crossbreeds being put into rescue, then I rather think you are shutting the door after the horse has bolted. To the irrresponsible dog owner the fact that the dog will be pts when it goes into rescue is hardly going to deter them...infact, they could end up just passing it around totally unsuitable homes to encounter more cruelty and abandonment.

Dogs 8plus should be pts. Again, I dont think that is very workable, and indeed I can understand why your post has produced such an outrage. For one, who made us into God to dictate that a dog, once 8 is expendable. There is a market for the golden oldies out there - its more down to educating people of the advantages than "disposing of the problem"
- By taffyparker [gb] Date 26.03.03 10:37 UTC
Can't help but notice 2-3 unfamiliar usernames with posts worded in a similar fashion. Perhaps our Troll is also suffering from multiple personality disorder? In an ideal world the dogs (if they exsist) would rise up against her and put her to sleep.
Julie
- By Brainless [gb] Date 26.03.03 09:01 UTC
I would laugh here if it wasn't so sad a point :(
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