Of course,thats just it,isnt it?If everyone thought about others,as you clearly do,life would be a lot more pleasant.Im a cyclist,and cringe at the bad name they get,yet i always try to be considerate,same as when Im out with my dogs and see cyclists.A lot of people are polite and considerate,but a lot arent!

You are right, Mastifflover.  You get all types in any walk of life!  The ones that ignore you are definately non-doggy folk lol.  The nodders are the ones that have dogs and appreciate the control you have.

I was joking about stopping.  I did put a lot of hints into my post about it being a joke.

I don't run straight at other dogs as I have posted a few times now, I do a wide berth on a large spaced path AROUND other people and dogs.

I have a warm-up period of stretching and walking before starting my run so this is usually when my lot pee/poo.  If I have any more during a run, I will stop and pick up(of course) but it's not usual.

I don't run up behind people quietly.  There is no-one I have ever passed that has been frightened or scared or surprised by me approaching.  Funnily enough, a wheezing old lady, an (almost) teenager with her phone going, and 3 dogs approaching even in the dark, is not a surprise to anyone!!  I've had a think too and if I had my 3 on-lead during the run, they would pass even closer than they do now.  Still at the same speed but closer.

I think like dog owners, joggers have their selfish people too.  I was just posting in the first place for the original poster to see from the joggers point of view.  As a jogger(without my dogs), I have encountered my fair share of selfish dog owners who think it's funny for my to have to jump over their dog to avoid a collision or their dog chasing me!  (something that's stopped since I take my dogs as they don't want their dogs to get injured with a fight).  Shows how little regard they have for MY safety!!  I realise this is not all dog owners but neither is bad behaviour all jogger either.

Live and let live.

> Funnily enough, a wheezing old lady, an (almost) teenager with her phone going, and 3 dogs approaching even in the dark, is not a surprise to anyone!! 

LOL :-D

> I have encountered my fair share of selfish dog owners who think it's funny for my to have to jump over their dog to avoid a collision or their dog chasing me!  (something that's stopped since I take my dogs as they don't want their dogs to get injured with a fight).  Shows how little regard they have for MY safety!

Disgusting behaviour for people to allow their dogs to chase :(
The fact that having your dogs with you stops this sort of thing only goes to show that these people CAN control thier dogs - if they feel it benefits them.
I've noticed people with loose dogs, allowing their dogs to run up to other peoples on-lead dogs. Strangely enough, when they see their dogs heading for Buster they suddenly remember they can actually call their dogs back to them and put them on a lead. (Little do they know that Buster would be one of the safest bets to not react to being ambushed by loose, strange dogs)

To be honest, if I wanted to run with 3 dogs off lead, I would choose somewhere wider than a 2 metre path (which is only about 6ft?). That really isn't that much room for everyone to feel comfortable imo.

> over a minute for a runner and then lost momentum = 16 weeks of training down the pan for a marathon runner!!!!!!!

I am sorry but i really cannot see how slowing down for a minute or two would mean  that 16 weeks of training would have been wasted for a runner. Maybe you could point me in the direction of some studies that indicate that a runners training is so delicate.

Runners CANNOT just walk at the drop of a hat, they have to keep going.

What happens if there is a bus blocking your way, ??

Stooge said

> I do agree with dog owners being curteous but this thread is about people wanting other people to be mindful of their dogs foibles.  That is never going to happen even if we had a right to wish it. 

I don't think this thread is about wanting other people to be mindful of our dogs foibles but rather that we want other people to treat us with the same consideration we are showing them.
Do these joggers who think  they don't need to slow down for dog walkers also go tearing past horses in their cars? or carry on driving with their lights on full beam down a dark lane when there is a car coming the other way? or shove people to one side to get to the head of a  queue? It is all about consideration for other people. I keep my dogs out of the way of joggers as much as i can but at the same time i expect joggers to show me a little consideration and slow down so they don't frighten my dogs.

> What happens if there is a bus blocking your way, ??

One jogger less?

:) :) :)

> I was out tonight and a guy didnt see us and was just about to walk out a gate. I shouted coming through, so ...
> A. I didnt run into him and knock him over
> B. If I had stopped when I realised what he was doing I would have had to stop dead, and going from the speed I was doing to a dead stop, I would have been out of running for a while and probably hospitalised"!!!!!!

> He stopped for a few seconds until we had gone through.

If you are running so fast that you can't safely stop then you should not be running on the road. What if the person coming out of the gate had been an elderly lady with poor hearing and slow reactions?  If she didn't immediately respond to your shout would you have just carried on and knocked her down?

>> But that doesn't mean you can run for however long absolutely guaranteed no one will do a poo - blind dog owners are exempt from picking up poo in case their dog does have an accident - joggers definitely aren't!
> Of course they would stop and pick up, at least I would hope so :-), but you can certainly reduce the chances.  It's something we have always done with our dogs.

How would a blind person see the poo to pick it up?!

>> Of course they would stop and pick up, at least I would hope so :-), but you can certainly reduce the chances.  It's something we have always done with our dogs.
> How would a blind person see the poo to pick it up?!

The jogger not the blind person :)

> over a minute for a runner and then lost momentum = 16 weeks of training down the pan for a marathon runner!!!!!!!
>I am sorry but i really cannot see how slowing down for a minute or two would mean  that 16 weeks of training would have been wasted for a runner. Maybe you could point me in the direction of some studies that indicate that a runners training is so delicate.

I meant if you stopped, like it sounded like someone earlier said you should,  not slowed down, Slowing down is one thing, Stopping dead because someone is in the way is another,
As for if a bus is on the road you tend to jog on the spot or run slightly further up the road to go round them, weaving between traffic (if stationary) , there are ways and means of keeping running without running in front of a bus!!! Again, this was a reply about stopping NOT slowing down :)
As for an old person coming out of a gate, if they are coming out of a gate you would see them and shout ahead that runners are coming through :) :) 
I agree runners should slow down, but people expect you to stop running for their convenience, what I am trying to make you aware of is that it is not that simple on a training run.

Lea :)

Since I am deaf, if you shouted to me that runners were coming through, I simply wouldn't hear you !!

> Since I am deaf, if you shouted to me that runners were coming through, I simply wouldn't hear you

I'm the same :)  I never hear cyclists coming up behind which is why I just can't have dogs that react badly.
On the plus side I am sure my lack of reaction goes a long way in helping them become very laid back about people/bikes whizzing past.

Blimey, I didn't realise what I was starting!

FWIW, I don't expect anyone to slow down when they pass me and mine but leaving more than a couple of inches between us on a 12' wide footpath is recommended.  One older gentleman actually ran into my husband (in daylight) and while stopping to appologise, fell over the GSD. Priceless.

>How would a blind person see the poo to pick it up?!

I know someone who had a retired guide dog and the dog poo'd in particular place in the garden every time so she didn't tread in any in the garden.