mine go into the downstairs loo.

I don't see why people shouldn't put the poo in other bins whilst they're out. We're tax payers after all and if you have fortnightly bin collections, as most of us now do, that is an awful long time to have it hanging around, especially in summer. The problem is even greater if you have multiple dogs.

I have 6 dogs. 

I have a lined bucket with a lid into which poo is collected several times a day using a dustpan and old hoe head. 

I probably fill one a week, with the pups maybe three buckets for the two weeks. 

Its bagged and binned with the weelie bin lid down nop probelsm with smells or flies. 

We normally only have a half bin full in two weeks, when we have pups it is full to the brim, mainly with solied paper, but keeping lid down no issue.

> I don't see why people shouldn't put the poo in other bins whilst they're out.

Maybe you haven't read the previous posts where it has been explained very well.

> The problem is even greater if you have multiple dogs.

The cost of that should not really fall to the other rate payers who could end up paying the extra cost of maintaining public bins when they have been used in this way.   Perhaps those that choose to have more than usual numbers of animals should be paying more as business or holiday lets etc do.

The problem in East Dorset may come after October when we will only get fortnightly collections from home. I can see that being very smelly & unhygenic in the hot weather.

> I don't see why people shouldn't put the poo in other bins whilst they're out.

Can you genuinely not see how inconsiderate this is?  You are simply moving your problem onto the street for others to deal with. 

If we choose to own dogs then we need to take full responsibility for them - the good and the bad - and dog waste from home should be disposed of at home, using your usual bin collection service OR taken to your local refuse tip if you prefer it go sooner.

As Brainless has said there are a variety of ways you can minimise the odour, flies etc.  I too use a separate poo bucket, which sits inside a small metal bin and which is kept well away from the back door. If I'm having a clean up session I sometimes add a layer of lemon balm which grows nearby and which helps reduce the smell

It's also worth mentioning that problems with Dog Pooh Bins are one of the more common complaints to Parish Councils and some County Councils are opting to remove them rather than incur the additional costs of collection or having to arbitrate with local residents.

> The problem in East Dorset may come after October when we will only get fortnightly collections from home. I can see that being very smelly & unhygenic in the hot weather.

We have had it for several years.  You have nothing to fear as long as you use your bins properly.
Do not overstuff the black bin with things you should be recycling, expecially now we have food waste in the composting bin, and you will be hard pushed to fill it in a fortnight.  When the lid is kept closed you will not notice any smell.

"The cost of that should not really fall to the other rate payers who could end up paying the extra cost of maintaining public bins when they have been used in this way.   Perhaps those that choose to have more than usual numbers of animals should be paying more as business or holiday lets etc do."

If you apply that criteria perhaps people who have more than 2.4 children should also pay more? I don't have children but have spent my adult life paying for schools/colleges/universities/youth clubs/swimming pools/librairies/children's play areas etc which I will never use. The bins I have used over the last 6 years have not had to be emptied more regularly because I drop one daily bag of poo off; if they were in danger of overflowing I would use more than one bin. I begrudge subsidising people who sit on the dole and breed like rabbits, as well as people who come into this country and go straight into council accommodation (and benefits) so please do not complain that I have one bag of poo to dispose of and choose to use a public facility to do so. I have paid for it after all.

I don't have any children but I recognise that other peoples children are going to contribute to the society I live in.

>The bins I have used over the last 6 years have not had to be emptied more regularly because I drop one daily bag of poo off

Why just you?

>I have paid for it after all.

You haven't. Your rates go towards collecting it from your house.  You have also contributing towards the provision of poo bins for casual use but extra emptying could be very much more.

> I don't see why people shouldn't put the poo in other bins whilst they're out.

because it's a premium cost service, designed for use by those walking their dogs past, who have been whilst on the walk.

"I don't have any children but I recognise that other peoples children are going to contribute to the society I live in.

>The bins I have used over the last 6 years have not had to be emptied more regularly because I drop one daily bag of poo off

Why just you?

>I have paid for it after all.

You haven't. Your rates go towards collecting it from your house.  You have also contributing towards the provision of poo bins for casual use but extra emptying could be very much more. "

I have yet to meet a child who I thought could actually contribute much to the future of this country. There are not many dog walkers in the areas I drop the poo off in so the bins are certainly not overused hence no 'extra emptying'. The problem in the NE seems to be to get dog walkers to actually pick up their poo so the bins are in no danger of overflowing. I do not consider a dog waste bin to be a 'premium cost service' in the same way that I suspect parents actually do not consider any of the facilities their children use to be a premium cost service either.

If all dog owners were to abdicate responsibility for disposing of their dog waste at home then we'd have a serious problem.

I'm really pleased to read that the Wildlife Trust Officer tackled the 2nd OP - it has highlighted an important issue and I genuinely hope that the majority of readers will reconsider their attitudes and their actions.  As more and more dog facilities are being withdrawn we need to be careful to protect the ones we have.  Dog Bins are rather unpleasant at the best of times but they are better than the alternative - please be a considerate dog owner and use the bins only whilst you are walking.  If the the dog poo is in your own garden then dispose of it at home.

Have to admit that I use the public bins too. Take it with me as we go for a walk, picking up after others on the way till we reach one. They are never full, more around them than in them!

because it's a premium cost service, designed for use by those walking their dogs past, who have been whilst on the walk.

We have no dog bins here, and pretty much every dog owner in the area walk their dogs in the area I live in. Bins have been asked for many a time but it's never happened, and yes cost is what has been mentioned. Thankfully everyone seems to be picking up -but we all have to carry the bags back home with us.

> I have yet to meet a child who I thought could actually contribute much to the future of this country.

Crickey!  We're doomed :-D

I have yet to meet a child who I thought could actually contribute much to the future of this country

I find that quite insulting to anyone who's children have been in your company.

Don't take it to heart, Chatsworth :)
It's a rediculous comment that doesn't really justify a response.  Nobody in their right mind would think that in 20, 30 years time we will not have doctors, nurses, policemen, firemen and all the other people working away for the economy and paying into the pension that will be keeping Marisa's old bones comfortable. :) 
Lovely though Marisa's dogs are, I am sure, I doubt they will have made any such contribution except poo to be shifted :)

> The problem is even greater if you have multiple dogs.

Not really.  Most of my guys go on our walks so that goes into the dog poo bins, and at home I collect a carrier bag full about every 3-4 days (a bit more at the moment as the heat is stopping our afternoon walks).

So I empty my dog food sacks into feed bins, then use the sacks for the carrier bags of poo - about 4 bags per sack, once I've got a sackful I take it to the tip.  Simple.

I have a little bin with a bin liner,i double bag the poo.I transfare this into my big bin on collection day,hate smelly bins.

Sheila

I guess I'm lucky. My two don't poop in our garden. They reserve that for walks!

With 6 dogs all walked together I end up with a lot of little bags hanging from my little finger, I wish they would reserve it for home.

Drives me nuts that within 5 minutes or less of leaving the house they will start performing, even though they have had the back door open most of the day!

To be fair they probably do go at home as much or more than on walks, but I have never managed a walk where at least 2 or 3 didn't have a poo, and most often all of them..

"I have yet to meet a child who I thought could actually contribute much to the future of this country."

How anyone could be so narrow minded as to make such a ridiculous, sweeping statement is beyond me!
I presume you do not like children - although you were one yourself once, remember!

"Rabbit and guinea pig etc litter is supposed to go in the green bin if you have one (our council charges for green bins, so you pay for one or compost)."

That is good to know, I have often wondered if it would be better put in the green bin (minus the newspaper).

> (minus the newspaper).

The newspaper can go in too, infact if it is soiled that is where it needs to go as the paper collection is not going to want it! :)
I line my kitchen food scraps bin with newspaper and in to the green bin it all goes.

Thanks Stooge, I would have put the soiled paper in the household waste bin tbh, but will just put the whole lot in the green bin then :-)

we have six dogs who are all walked together too. I religiously scoop my dogs poop and use poop bins provided but when at home i put it all down the loo.

I haven't yet found a dog poo bin where I live - I guess like wheelie bins, Malvern Hills District Council deem them unsightly so we can't have them. (Apparently, piles of black and pink filled bin liners is not remotely unsightly... I digress!)

Poo on walks is bagged up and taken home, collected in its own black bag and goes out with the normal household rubbish.

Poo done in the yard is shovelled into an old bucket and tipped down the drain once the bucket is full. The yard is weekly freshened up with a deodorising disinfectant (mmmmmm bubblegum).

The idea of saving up your weeks poo and finding a dog poo bin to put it in is horrible - those bins are NOT for that and if fyou go to all that effort, just drive to the tip!

>

The newspaper can go in too, infact if it is soiled that is where it needs to go as the paper collection is not going to want it! :-)

That's interesting, does the council actually say to do that (I'm assuming your green bin is my brown bin - garden/plant type waste?  My green bin is general household!)?  I get through a lot of shredded paper (many mice and chinchillas too), but when I queried what to do with it at the tip they just said landfill because it can't go in recycling, being full of poop.  I'd much rather it got reused somehow!

Yes, garden recycling going for composting.  Shouldn't be any problem with herbivore outputs.  How much rat poo ends up in compost anyway? :) 
Infact I think I may have read somewhere that someones council said dog poo was ok because they compost at a much higher temperature than back garden compost heaps but I would check that one if you were considering it.

> does the council actually say to do that

Every council is a little bit different and it often depends on which companies they contract out to, although most have pretty good Q&A sections on their websites, regarding exactly what waste goes in which bin.  If they don't print it then email them a question - they're all pretty hot on meeting their recycling quotas so are generally quite quick to reply.

> but I would check that one if you were considering it.

I wouldn't put the dog poo in any of my bins - after a fortnight it just makes them too heavy, even with a lot of it being done out on walks.  Then I end up with a manky bin that the council won't take until I've emptied it myself!

We have 13 dogs so that is a helluva lot of poop. We use biodegradable nappy sacks around the property. The bags are put into a large black sack and taken to the council dump  for landfill. Out in the forest I do 'stick and flick' into the undergrowth.

Regarding taking it to your tip. You can't go to our tips without a licence if you drive a van as I do.

I bag it in poo bags then throw it in the bin although I hate the idea of putting it in a bag and preserving it for years to come when it would naturally break down. A while ago I saw an attachment u can get for your waste pipe at home. U just put the poo into it and it goes straight to the sewers. I've tried looking for it online with no luck. Maybe someone on here knows about it.

> I hate the idea of putting it in a bag and preserving it for years to come when it would naturally break down

Use bio degradable or compostable poo bags - one example here

> I hate the idea of putting it in a bag and preserving it for years to come

You could get a dog poo wormery. I have one and think it's fabulous, even on the hottest days it doesn't smell at all and most of the waste from 4 dogs goes in there. I made my own cheap version - normal compost bin and worms from ebay.

What do ypu feed your dogs? I like the idea of a wormery but wonder if the worms will manage the stools of mt raw fed dogs as they are a different composition from kibble fed dogs. much less vegetable matter. are there special worms for dog poo? or are they normal composting worms? what container do you use and do you need to add anything else along with the poo? instructions for setting one up would be greatly appreciated.

I did an experiment usinf thw frames of a divan bed to make an opwn top container, ans composted akl thw dog poor, juat toppinf with with ash from bonfire, and leaves. 

There was no smell or flies.  After leaving it a few months with no addition of dog poo, we dug it out and it had composted beautifully and was full of earth worms.

Mine get a lot of raw food added to their base of dry complete, but do have firm non smelly poos (well non smelly after they have air dired for a half hour).

I would have thought that worms would cope better with poo from raw fed dogs as it's more natural, not processed at all.

Brainless - how did you make the bin?  I have two old divan frames that I've kept for just this sort of thing but I've never really sat down and figured out how to do it :-)

http://www.champdogsforum.co.uk/board/topic/137911.html

I think this was the post with the info but did you see the price on it

> Brainless - how did you make the bin?  I have two old divan frames that I've kept for just this sort of thing but I've never really sat down and figured out how to do it :-)

All we did was stack the two frames together and fill,  Basically it was a contained dung heap.  The gaps in the framing give the airflow.  Liquid will simply drain into the ground, so needs to be placed somewhere free draining.

Ideally you'd want two, as you need to leave it to rot without adding anything for a couple of months before you coudl dig it out to use.  Also if you worm regualry the wormer would kill worms in a wormery until it has broken down.

> What do ypu feed your dogs?

Part good quality kibble and part raw

>I like the idea of a wormery but wonder if the worms will manage the stools of mt raw fed dogs as they are a different composition from kibble fed dogs.

They process everything, even the really hard poos after too many chicken wings

>are there special worms for dog poo?

I just bought compost worms off ebay, like these ones.

>what container do you use and do you need to add anything else along with the poo?

I got a big compost container cheap from our local council, it looks like this one

>instructions for setting one up would be greatly appreciated.

Well I just put some cut grass in the bottom, then started adding dog poo when I ordered the worms, so there was a couple of days in there when they arrived. They came in a bag with feed in it apparently - I just chucked them in. I add grass cuttings now and again and ordinary compost stuff and all the poo from the garden except when the dogs have been wormed obviously. I should probably turn it over now and again but haven't done yet. I have taken some stuff out the wee door at the bottom and put it in plant containers, it was rich and black and didn't smell and the plant pots looked great :-)

Thanks very much Chaumsong. I already have a couple of normal compost bins which i use for garden waste. I have  not added any worms to them. Maybe I could just start adding poo to them now.
How many worms did you buy? I am not sure how many worms in a Kilo!

I can't remember exactly, think I spent about a fiver? That got me an A5 size envelope with worms in it, but they've obviously been breeding because it looks like there's a lot more in the bin now!

> All we did was stack the two frames together and fill,  Basically it was a contained dung heap.  The gaps in the framing give the airflow.  Liquid will simply drain into the ground, so needs to be placed somewhere free draining.

Ideally you'd want two, as you need to leave it to rot without adding anything for a couple of months before you coudl dig it out to use.  Also if you worm regualry the wormer would kill worms in a wormery until it has broken down.

Fair enough, I wasn't sure it would be that simple lol!  I do have two - I am a terrible hoarder of 'things that may be useful' so I kept hold of them after they broke, just in case.

I'm not worried about wormer - I worm as and when needed, a couple of times a year usually so I could just bin the poo for a few days after it's been done.

I'm quite excited to finally have a use for those flipping frames now :-P

At home, I'm lucky enough to have a space at the bottom of the garden where garden waste is left to rot down so I'm able to collect up my dog's poo from the garden and throw it over there (no one lives behind us).  But in the park I was once a long way from the dog poo bin clutching a bag of my dog's poo at the same time as all the waste bins were being emptied.  The friendly man from the council called over to me to chuck it in with the rest as all the refuse and the dog poo goes in together anyway!  Obviously, not all councils operate the same way though.

When out, we pick up with pooh bags, and put it in one of the several bins in our neighbourhood.   At home, we have a lined bin into which anything done out back goes and when it gets to a certain level, it's taken to said dog pooh bins in the neighbourhood.     When we lived out in the country, we had a pile at the end of the garden.