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- By crobertson [gb] Date 09.06.17 18:31 GMT
Just wondering what folks experience is with long term metacam use. I've previously posted about our 5 year old lab who has elbow dysplasia (had surgery at 8-9 months) and then cruciate ligament disease which he had TPLO surgery for 12 months later. We've managed up to now with supplements, bio flow collar etc etc but over the past 12 months hes steadily going down bank. We've been to the vets this afternoon who confirmed he is struggling with arthritis in both elbows and his knee and has recommended that he should go on to metacam full time. I expected this and much prefer quality of life over quantity.

What are the long term implications on a young dog ? The last time I used metacam was our old lab who was on it for around 12 months before he died so have no longer term experience. Is there anything can do to help ..... I know metacam can have kidney implications and as a biomedical scientist by job for people with kidney disease etc a low protein, low meat diet is recommended to reduce the load on the kidneys ... would this help ? (he's on a grain free, high meat, high protein food currently).
- By Merlot [gb] Date 09.06.17 18:54 GMT
Have you seen a specialist orthopaedic vet to talk through all the options available these days, there are some new treatments with stem cells and platelets without massive surgery. Matacam is quite harsh long term but ask about Onsior it's gentler I think.
- By Nikita [gb] Date 10.06.17 10:34 GMT
I would look at alternatives.  First stop for me would be golden paste, which is a natural remedy (turmeric, black pepper, coconut oil cooked to a recipe - google 'Doug English golden paste', he is a vet that uses it a lot) and a very potent anti inflammatory.  So it's doing the same job as the metacam, but without the long term side effects and IME, considerably better.

Also look at hydrotherapy and acupuncture if you haven't already.  Acupuncture is one of those things that may or may not work but if it does, it can be phenomenal - always worth a try if you can.  Hydrotherapy rarely doesn't help, as it is low-impact and just the heat from the water can make a huge difference.

What supplements do you have him on?
- By Tectona [gb] Date 10.06.17 16:13 GMT
Definitely look into hydrotherapy.
- By MamaBas Date 11.06.17 09:30 GMT Edited 11.06.17 09:34 GMT
My Basset was diagnosed with subluxation, both hips and his spine -ghastly.    He'd been on and off lame before, but the last time, earlier this year, I decided enough was enough and had my vet check him.   He wasn't totally sure what was going on but gave him antiinflammatory meds.  That evening he was bad enough for me to call the emergency vet who gave him a shot, basically an opiate and he had a reasonably quiet night.   The following morning he was pretty bad and I took him back (was going to anyway) and my vet had him walk up and down outside the office.   His movement was quite frankly, alarming and we were both surprised at how rapid the 'deterioration' was.   He was admitted for x-ray which is when we found out what was going on.   However, thinking back later, I honestly believe the deterioration was down to the evening drug he'd been given still being in his system.    He was given pain relief tablets (I forget what) and Metacam.   Eventually he was able to come off the painkillers but kept on the Metacam, dose as per his weight.   Since then, and it was some months ago now, I've been gradually reducing the amount he's given, and having seen the vets last week to discuss what should be done, much as I bought another large bottle of Metacam, it was suggested I took him off totally and 'see what happens'.   He's been off for 3 days now, and is apparently fine.    He's 7, 8 in October.   And obviously much as it was said he may need to be on Metacam indefinitely, I really don't want him on it any longer than needed.  Some vets will do a blood work-up at some point if a dog is on this long-term.   There was no suggestion my boy needed this - and he has been fine on it, no bad stools, lack of appetite etc. 

I think you can only be guided by the treating vet.  Just my opinion.

ps    This boy presented with premature closure of the growth plates early on (around 9 months when he again was lame) and at the time I was warned about arthritis later on - his ulna both sides, was affected.   Basically the boy just grew too fast (I bought him at 4 months and at that time he was a very big puppy).   At one point he did have a couple of courses of acupuncture, which clearly helped.
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